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The Day Kennedy Died: A conversation with former life editor Richard Stolley

Abraham Zapruder caught one of the most infamous moments in American history on film and sold the footage to Life Magazine. This hour on Focus, host Jim Meadows talks with the reporter who convinced him to give up the film.


(Duration: 51:20)

Kennedy motorcade in Dallas

Kennedy motorcade in Dallas AP Photo from PR Newswire

When President John F. Kennedy was assassinated at Dealy Plaza in Dallas, Texas in 1963, Richard Stolley was Los Angeles bureau chief for Life Magazine. He got a call soon after the news of the assassination broke that someone named Zapruder had caught the whole thing on film.

Stolley immediately started thumbing through the phone book looking for a way to contact him, and Life eventually obtained the footage for a price tag of more than $100,000. Years following the Kennedy assassination, Zapruder’s business partner has said the money wasn’t the only reason Zapruder gave up the film to Life. This hour on Focus, host Jim Meadows talks with Stolley about his Illinois roots, in part, helped him obtain that film. Meadows also talks with Stolley about the continuing significance of the Kennedy assassination and why the man and the moment still matter 50 years later.
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    my program continues after the news
    welcome to focus some gym Meadows my guest today Richard Stony is a NATO


    native of central Illinois and I understand he got his start as a teenage sports reporter
    what is hometown paper the Pekin Daily Times what is major work has been with the timeline
    Life magazine group he’s been the managing editor of time and life
    magazine and was the founding managing editor of People magazine
    what was as West Coast bureau chief at life Flat Stanley Cup at the store
    lifetime the assassination of President John F Kennedy in November
    1963 now is near the 50th anniversary of an event life


    Life magazine has published the book looking back the day Kennedy died
    is available is a $50 coffee table book and an abridged $13
    new standard edition installing is included in a book with a Vivitar nickel
    on his experiences covering the assassination dicks dolly welcome to focus
    thank you very much and I don’t wanna jam yes can I say one thing
    one thing sure you describe me in sports reporter I have to tell you I was
    Irish sports editor sports editor where to staff of one


    hahaha I’m sure you were very regular ok
    you know just just for the up openers here um there’s
    there’s so much of course of media attention being paid this 50th anniversary
    besides the media’s love anniversaries why do we look back on the
    on the Kennedy assassination with this surgery on City
    if it was it was kind of a mine
    I’m coming event on the iPhone ever Experian


    parents not not not even 911 of probably because it was a singer
    single person that everybody could relate to identify with
    and I think the impact on the country
    watching that funeral on Monday yet to come
    is galvanized the nation a.m. And Noah
    no all the way that I have experience in my lifetime anime B
    maybe it’s because the media was at a point work with ring finger


    bring things to American so quickly I mean I guess I’m not sure
    sure but I don’t think the 50th anniversary of the McKinley assassination at the start of a tension
    well it mean if it was kind of the dawning of of television coverage
    um television concentrated on the funeral in
    rollin Washington not on the crime in Dallas um network television
    television really was out of nowhere to be seen
    whats the present body went back to Washington but their coverage of funeral


    general that Monday was absolutely magnificent and if its a tarp
    talk the American television industry how to cover a huge event like that
    I know I remember you know I was only 7 at the time but I was aware enough
    20 to perceive it was really nothing else on television
    for about 3 days from the assassination to the funeral
    General of the three major networks at a time will just doing continuous coverage
    El Paso I’m doing the program welcome your calls


    call send emails with your questions and memories of Virginia incest if you’re cute
    too young to remember what the other two young to remember it directly I let us know what the event
    signifies to you call in at 1 800 222 945
    554 phone number toll free 1 800 222 w y la menu
    you can also email as a WY el dash taunted Illinois dot
    .edu dick I’m wondering if you could just uh put it back in
    rockin that time just before the assassination how was President Kennedy


    regarded Ines day we hear all the accounts comparing the Kennedy White House to camera
    Camelot that cannot have been a universal sentiment weather camelot Theme
    really was invented by Mrs Kennedy after the assassination
    but the fact that remains the thing the country was
    extremely curious tolerant of
    off of President Kennedy City
    through some rough times


    mostly involving Cuba Libre the Cuban Missile Crisis Center in before the
    for that the dissident invasion of Cuba
    um he went to Texas was he was having Syria
    Sirius political problems there and he was looking forward to 1
    a second term you have to carry Texas Texas was very cheap
    H&C and it’s the reason why he went down who went down there
    despite all of these problems the country


    um really really Politico
    directions to 11 people didn’t like him and conservatives all the rest but generally speaking
    speaking America was transfixed but if critically handsome
    some glamorous president with incredible glamorous family
    um he’s the wizard a
    I wouldn’t say reverencia to young for that but
    it was a movie star for a president and dumb


    and everything he did of made Newsom
    Life magazine was the the bringer of such a new
    news in pictures to America and the world if if if the trip
    trip to Texas had just been a regular trippin the assassination had that happened
    what life is covered it would have gotten a couple of pictures of pictures we always
    always covered him where everyone and we had a photographer and a
    um a quarter on the Press bust a b***


    of course if if the oven Oswald Indianapolis
    nothing to 6 lug is Google depository it maybe would have been a couple of pictures on
    is there about is Texas strip an app that would have been if you’re absolutely right
    now you were the West Coast bureau chief for LIFE Magazine so you were in Los Angeles
    on November 22nd 50 years ago how did you first hear the news
    Nielsen how did you react when I first heard the news
    we have AP teletype which just before the Internet


    off we had a reporter who had been aid Texas
    city auditor and he couldn’t stand not knowing what was going on in the world
    world so he would wander from is office to the Associated Press teletype
    24 times a day just to make sure nothing happened
    ebony phat and he was standing in front of the toilet I 10 slices
    born again spitting 4th shots for Dallas president make
    maybe wanted and the first I heard of it was Tommy Thompson was his name


    baby shower de dick Kennedy’s been shot in Dallas
    and I ran out to the BP machine watch
    watch Ted for a minute or two it became wear something big
    what happened there Iran back to my office called New York
    on the phone they are just got the same news I said what can we do
    can we do and the orders for clear how fast can you get to Dallas
    so that’s what you did that to you you you anime


    Tommy Thompson got a gun on a plane to Dallas who did aunt fortunately to photographers
    where in the bureau at the time with their equipment thank God
    thank God and I said okay we’re all going
    backpack nothing we just ran for the offer the airport
    and we are just as we’re going into LA Airport
    Airport the president died and Tommy dominos
    will being driven air by another college how many men did the ground


    I can remember to this day then we all piled on this night
    national Airlines plane about an hour after we heard the news
    and by about 4 o’clock we were in Dallas you just mention tummy time
    Tommy Thompson’s reaction this was a big story but it was also a big blow to the country
    what country did you yourself experiencing a personal reaction as well as the perfect
    the professional the truth will not move
    not until I got back to LA I think most journalism no hand and tell me so


    certainly could not have been more professional 16 there
    b***  reporters learn to just gotta put the remote
    motions aside and dumb and its what
    what office did there um we didn’t have much time to watch TV with didn’t wash
    the as as the terrible nation watched on Monday the
    the funeral and the is interesting
    you mentioned the book with done at the day Kennedy died it was when I was preparing I did what


    backup did some some reporting look the files that I had
    msn Siri read lived that weekend in a movie
    motion away writing that story um
    the way that I did not at the time listen to nothing that’s very into
    interesting 50 years later all this love 50 years later on
    all of this coming back to you and I know that that article is very vivid
    vivid and detailed it just seems like no time to past it all


    I want you know at this point dick in this is war like to set the scene intern
    term of where the news media was a 1963 because the medial NC
    landscapers changed so much and umm the coffee table edition of the day
    Kennedy died includes a facsimile edition of the issue of life that
    reported the Kennedy assassination am i producing Lindsey moon who’s online
    younger than you and I took a look at it and she was very impressed by the physical size of the Magi
    the magazine GI believe she actually wonder if it was being printed larger than its


    its original size life life was it was outside back then
    and a lot of magazines worth everything from Ladies Home Journal the boy’s life wasn’t
    big format what can you talk about the prominence a magazine like life
    had in the news media landscape I have century FL well
    well it if it was a picture magazine with a lot of words but we we
    the size of photographs which is like getting this burger from for life with
    was so critical for me they came out every week or by biggest


    biggest competitor was look at it it came out only every other week
    network television um at the time of the Kennedy assassination
    had been on for half an hour only a few months and 50
    15 minutes before then the evening of living Network new skin
    cast yes exactly the evening news caster and toe
    for many Americans um for millions of Americans life
    life was their window on the world weird correspondence in photography


    everywhere we covered everything and
    and uh and what life would come on on Friday and Romero
    American homes and I for December the times I can imagine it would be a big
    big fight who would get the magazine first and and Paige
    find out what was happening World War important
    what it look like we are talking about the assassin
    assassination of a President John Kennedy what happened 50 years ago November


    ember 22nd are God is Pekin Illinois Pekin Illinois native dicks tumblr
    who was on the staff of Life magazine and covered the assassination
    has a new article about the events in the Life magazine book the day Kennedy died
    side of this also an excerpt from the article initial of Time magazine from
    last month with locking your questions comments are memories at 1
    802 to 29455 are you male a Santa WY
    the wild and talk at Illinois .edu and that phone number again is wanted


    800 222 w I ll let me go ahead and take
    take phone call a Steve from champagne good morning urine Focus good morning
    show a hard to believe it 750 years
    I suppose it’s one of those events Chicago Bulls much like Pearl Harbor
    11 that the on 58 and I can recall like it was yesterday
    today’s Catholic Grammar School on southside of Chicago having the up
    cry and just amazing but I wanted to ask your test to quick questions


    Adventure 2005 have a 18 year old daughter
    daughter in course you can put your mind around assume all of this is coming back
    why is this so important everybody talking about it
    and I was wondering if you guys baby to talk to his perspective s2 if you would
    changed if you know that goes events would have never happened
    t*** exposed 20 20 bucks Vietnam and water gave all those things
    things we forgot about hard left after Kennedy assassination


    I was wondering if you got the country would have been different and why it’s such a seminal event
    finally if it is on personal police if you thought the Harvey act alone
    loan arena thank you very much dick that for first question if
    if Kennedy had had lived maybe been re elected to a second term
    how do you think the issues with handle the issues facing the nation at that time
    its he had Satan he was a tie
    with a terrific speaker and unbelievably articulate an articulated goals for


    for America in those first three years that I think he would have tried very hard to
    how to accomplish if he had a second term
    Linda Johnson with better at manipulating Congress than Kennedy was
    that’s why does civil rights bills were passed by Johnson that they propose
    proposed by Kennedy and Johnson got them pass I take it
    think it’s very likely that those bills would have been passed and in the second
    second term that the glamour would not have one


    one of the fact that the President Kennedy was misbehaving on
    unbelievably during all of this it’s unlikely that that would have
    what have come out the reporters were very very cautious
    Anna and their coverage mm does a lot of new what was going on
    so I think the Kennedy with a second term
    Woodbury likely and and Vietnam I don’t know who knows it hits
    its so I don’t think he had that kind of Texas macho attitude that to


    good to the Johnson had that I think preventative in many ways
    is from pulling out of Vietnam but I suspect
    Kennedy in to terms with gone down as a very successful
    bull and memorable president do you think much would have changed from what happened
    under under the Johnson administration and in terms of policies a decision
    decisions well it’s very likely that would not have been a Johnson ministration Amina Thai
    Johnson at the end of the second term assuming even that he would have


    would have been vice president and
    who is some magic asian with the Kennedy camp of replacing
    placing him Kennedy’s did like Johnson and Johnson as people don’t like Kennedys
    maybe in a second term that would have been a different vice president possible yes
    and and John Smith at point was getting on in years we just
    we just had a very young President Kennedy and the NIH
    think I question seriously weather Johnson


    I would have been elected president autozone let me get 2001
    one big subject because we’re already getting a couple of colors and that and that
    and that’s about to the home movie that Abraham Zapruder took off the
    presidential motorcade which one on one which can be seen the shooting of love
    John Kennedy Unigo ciated with Abraham Zapruder
    how to get the rights to the film for LIFE Magazine how did those events planned out
    out why does displaying the wheel took tube


    Dallas listen to before I went in
    set up a man and office in the Adolphus hotel in downtown Dallas
    about a two eyes about 6 o’clock I got a phone call from
    a part time life core spawn in the stringer is Legoland
    who invented the Dallas PD at all afternoon going home to feet
    how to feed your children got a phone call from the reporter friend who said he turned from a car
    mcop this is the way the reporter heard from a company called


    because are reported reporter calls me anyway it that a businessman have been a dealer
    Dealey Plaza with a movie camera and was said to a photograph the fascination
    Asian and I thought I could God and I said what
    how to refine who is this man he said I can
    8 install it for me buddy pronounce that and she put out did the PRU dor
    didn’t have a first name I’ve never been to Dallas
    before self pick up the phone book iPhone phone books for useful reference


    imports and research tool back then yes
    antiseptic clear and my finger down disease and death
    I got there was the APR uder, Abraham
    and M on the phone number
    I started calling and call
    15 minutes for the next 5 hours and at 11 o’clock
    this with voice answer and it was I determine that it was Mississippi


    indeed photographed
    The Assassination heat scene it you got the whole thing I ask
    if I could come out and see the film right then he said please don’t
    don’t you said I’ve had a terrible day witches to put Molly
    and he he said come to my office at 9 o’clock tomorrow morning
    and because I knew that other reporters
    becoming possession of the same information I got there


    is there an hour early I got there at 8 n
    yo you really have to sign some Mr Zapruder up really quickly does a sign how to talk to him
    to him and convention to let life used to film what were your impressions of love
    Abraham Zapruder he was a grieving man
    man uh mostly um but he was a business
    businessman I’m a good one and he was his business like it could possibly be
    Levi Odessa film his head when I got there looks like


    looks like you know that I was an hour early but he said I’m about to show the film
    the 2 secret service agent says so you might as well come in so I did
    why did I thought this incredible pizza film for the first time realize
    realized that life had to have a & M
    when the time came the reporters Kors short office license pectin
    show the film to them um I dis disappeared
    disappear what went out in the end if I said can I sit somewhere else Mississippi


    is Bernie put me out and is with his office staff
    format his secretary is a system was from Taylorville Illinois
    that’s right central Illinois not far from Springfield right hand and uh
    when she told me that II said to Taylorville is a river
    Direct basketball team and so we talked about high school basketball
    and um we got a long way Wellington turned up
    thats that became very important vs predator what the time came he shows


    the show the phone to the other porters and then a gathered is all in the sand
    out of the hall me said I know you want to speak to me one by one
    I wanna be a star from life was first
    reporter to contact me so I feel obliged to talk to him first well
    well the other reporters went berserk when I heard that and uh
    big and screaming shawty dont sign anything promise ill talk to us
    and I just gonna melt away we went into his office


    office in the later I had the film
    no you have to do you have to make some choices its invent
    the next issue of Life magazine published several frames
    from that movie umm you don’t publish everything of course
    course of hydrogen how do you make the decisions at store for so I didn’t I stayed
    Dallas to cover the rest of the story a courier to film
    set up of emergency office at the printing plant the Donnelly


    Franklin and Chicago and they they made a decision
    vision not to run the infamous frames 330
    13 witches when the president head explode
    um they felt that the this would be a 2 disturbing
    the Kennedy family and um so they didn’t run that particular friend
    frame there any others of present clutching is throat after
    hit the back misses Kennedy crawling


    rolling along the trunk trying to get away in my opinion
    Secret Service agent jumping on the bed limousine pushing your back into it all off
    all of that was there a headshot was not in the first
    humanitarian reason did you for you know of course over the
    over the years so many series built up mini of the based on what is in
    prisoner not in this film will you even a b*******
    where people even able to study the film that carefully to Reno to figure


    the figure out what was going on in terms of selecting the frames
    well its its its kinda fast if I have my own Siri um
    the super Turf & M there is a kind of History
    ambiguity to it that the super film to me is the best argument
    EXIF for a single shooter when is the best argument
    committed exist for a conspiracy both at once both both at the same time
    same time I mean there are things in the film Hum


    the president after the the terrible headshot the president bodyslam
    slammed back into the the backseat of a limousine
    name of conspiracy people say that proves that was a shot for me
    the grassy knoll and that’s with slammed in back into the sea
    of neurologist pathologists say because
    because of the massive what does the brain that was a eighth of a gal
    galvanic response muscular response VIPs slam them back in there


    where is it to the was no shooter another shooter
    shooter in the end the grassy knoll
    okay so its its indepence interpretation here exactly
    happily now in the day Kennedy died in the book of love
    the book does reprint every frame in color this time from the zip
    disapproval film what if I read correctly I also its also written that
    that of the film was damage to some extent during processing I’m not sure that street


    during the initial processing or later and that a few friends like me be half a dozen
    are missing about 3 or 4 yes and that was done with
    when I sent the film up to Chicago life made a weird to run in black
    black and white because we didn’t have time off to do color color chart
    several days back then they made a black and white to Prince and then they made
    Mayday mean individual Prensa frames and then they made a print of the film itself
    self which is what they sent to New York so they could see it and in doing so


    self 234 impossibly frames with damage
    the happy to cut them out but they were early in the film the 1 of 2
    2000 it important to know what was going on
    and of course that’s not going to satisfy a lot of people show
    some people in the scene that could be crucial to the events well I myself
    M named into conspiracy plot well I know
    I know that I didn’t know I was talking to someone so important hum


    attention must be paid a year did the Scottsboro 2011
    one of them is that I took the film I got the phone from a misses
    misses brother and I want a mediately to a secret CIA photo lab outside Dallas
    where they deal with the frames in rhe Rainism
    inorder to to come cover up the fact
    the multiple shooters now
    explain that but that’s one of them in the second is that I was


    I was so arrested by by Toyota
    Texas the policeman when I try to get a
    the suitcase full of cash to Marina Oswald
    okay I type I plead not guilty to both charging
    we have an email from Jack in Champaign and the nervous system
    is correct a science and the film the super film is not shown on television
    for many years we just saw the still photos why was that


    the two reasons for one is that when I was negotiating with misses router
    Ebag depleted with me he said whoever gets his film
    film I do not want them to exploited any user
    you said word repeatedly adhesives are fact you know I want that to be
    to be in any kind of contract that that I sign
    that day I negotiate it only for print right
    that was on Saturday I came back on Monday after your cat litters


    Henry lose some self head seen the film
    and they said we want to we want to get alright so
    50000 on Friday and Monday I paid
    100000 Ando and time incorporated life have
    alright we decided partly for competitor
    positive reasons and partly in in keeping with Mr Cooper
    routers to play an art Greenman not to exploit the we fell


    felted the we did not wanted seen on television
    and the Bandit what’s the deal collars that sleep right 10197
    7520 Arroyo Rivera I put on a boot
    bootleg copy that is it legal copy on ABC television
    now got no not today the film is is what about Lander standard
    that does the dead live magazine games is a return
    return the rights to the film to the Zapruder family and it was subsequently


    alia Bhatt by the federal government um I guess not for hiding anything but first
    essentially to make it public yeah what they wanted to
    to have the film interposition which they actually had had for several years
    it’s very fragile thing on and its been in the National Archives
    hives even Time Inc after National Park
    archivers to preserve it to humidity temperature that kind of thing which they did
    faded okay we’re going to take a short break now and will be back with more c**


    conversation with veteran time life in People magazine editor dicks only about
    about covering the Kennedy assassination this is focus on wyll
    what back on focus on wyll mg meadows in buttocks
    talking with Pekin Illinois native dicks Tali who helps cover the Kennedy assassination 50 years
    50 years ago for LIFE Magazine he has a new article about that event in the life
    The Life magazine book the day Kennedy died and welcome your questions comments
    diamonds are memories at 1 800 22 29455


    email acid will dash talk at
    edu the phone number again is 1 800 222
    Wilo effects of Commerce waiting patiently I don’t know the answer the question
    Giada not but online 1 dead in a Bena the do you have any other questions regarding others
    Sabrina Fillmore anything else about the Kennedy assassination Jim like you said you into
    anticipated to my questions here but I’m a star if it’s great to
    great to talk to you I’m not a conspiracy theorist Sona set up front


    very curious about the decisions wife made im 12
    someone sick why is the film how many um the presentation Zapruder film
    film in the memorial issue that came out the week after is really extraordinary
    and then there was also mention I do not
    publish or otherwise mother
    frames from the film and I guess my question is
    who is making the decision to move this a um a kind of


    is such a extranar situation that resemble Henry Luce stepped in
    captain make decisions or I know that ICD Jackson Ubly with the publisher of life
    the time whiskey making decisions were made this
    more less go to the shore mall certified normal editorial processes
    Macy’s decision well I mean
    that’s a very good question fortunately I thought I was not in New York at the time
    the time and it and I only know what I’ve been told


    loose all the film
    over the weekend and Concord the life should
    should I get it and and then the decision of
    not allowed to be shown on television on movies
    that had to have been a decision that the loose
    Wood weather not in heat
    it was his decision the weather with some played he was told and untold the reason


    and usually decisions off of that nature
    what made by the editors of the magazines and dumb
    but but it does that was important enough that the Denver lose I’m sure
    sure was aware of life policy in regard is a separate from
    thank you very much and thank you very much for calling um
    um I’m wondering if you have a dick you talk about Abraham Zapruder as a man was grey
    is grieving when you first start talking about the movie of the shooting


    shooting what happened to Abraham Zapruder in later years how did the notoriety of this film
    effective IFTA what in
    in the book the day Kennedy died routers granddaughter
    published author writes about the impact on misses spreader
    the family the impact was enormous um
    first Hwy receive bags and
    bags of mail um and most of a address


    address simply Abraham Zapruder Dallas Texas and post office
    Golf Course know that we would have delivered does um
    hip to get haunted him he he have to testify before the war
    Warren Commission Vesta getting this ass nation wept off when I move
    what movie was with showed um when he and his wife
    is wife travel to Chick fil A in Europe when they would sin Hotel registers
    Mrs desk clerks with awesome look up and say are you this approve


    who to ask questions like that um
    he he gave he gave me
    give me the original and on and on Monday the only
    the only other copy had and I realize a few weeks later that he didn’t have a copy
    copy the film I call them up and I said missus Peters MO
    you don’t have copy that film we can make a terrific 1st generation
    copy and send it to you and he said I’m sorry I don’t want that film in my house


    I needed um
    is it haunted him forever The Family interesting
    f didn’t talk about it much because
    freedom Self died in 1970
    7 years after the film was made an
    I mean the separate film has become
    just a catch phrase that the anyone who was alive at the time does exactly


    exactly what you talking about and um the family
    family of God in many ways is
    still kind of suffers
    in the mall its to get a lot of people are not quite sure but they know it’s something
    kind of gasoline Graham and the ant and anyone names
    names of router have to go through life without curse
    what’s wrong with dicks only who was with Life magazine at the time of the a Kennedy


    Kennedy assassination and we have a cooler online for from Belgium Illinois good morning
    good morning good morning to have remember when
    high school biology class my sophomore year when the thing happen
    Anna and I remember the time the bird man
    map of people going to happen understood still going
    going to squish termini many to fax something because the candy
    the family that want to get out the years World War 2


    what years are we going to be finding things we don’t know we’re all just stories
    Boston things that might come to life
    no you’re not a princess
    is that pink dress the missus Kennedy awards at the was so staying with blood
    blood in hand and body parts that is Ben
    kept refrigerated in National Archives in somewhere
    and at the request of the Kennedy family I don’t think that’s going to be


    taken out and shown until 2017
    name something like that things to make sure the future
    Yes button nothing lisa ann my view
    do off of any kind of forensic importance of the Tsar
    these are artifacts um that better sequestered is you put it
    um more out of concern for the kind of
    what kind of personal impact them historical myself and thank you very much


    very much for calling a dick im wondering because of course you were with LIFE Magazine
    after the assassination lady you were at People magazine as an editor
    you must have been a position consider articles about people still wondering about
    about the Kennedy assassination still wondering about possible unknown evidence surface
    conspiracy theories how did you handle those &&&&& the publication side
    well life did a lot of
    a lot of attention to the Kennedy assassination after with only a few months


    um after November wedidit store
    the story with governor Connally who discovered from is grievous wounds
    governor of Texas was on governor of Texas who was in the end in the limousine a jump
    jump seat and badly wounded he hum he is convinced
    when was convinced an apparently to is dying day was the second shooter
    that one bullet at Kennedy and the separate bullet hit him
    is Siri was the bullet pass to Kennedy’s body and then


    Android his could not have done the really awful call the of a woman
    wounds that he suffered from that day anak
    heatbeat remember he came to the office in a 100 frame by frame
    anndretta big story on this time we ran the frames in car
    color and we didn’t run frame 313 & M soul
    so we continued at one point of life Renta de Toro saying
    saying that to the magazine like some any others was


    not satisfied with the Warren Commission and the it
    it should be reopened no I was not involved
    vault this is done in New York in the top 10
    how did the story when I was in washington,pa which I went to a few months
    month after after Dallas misses Kennedy’s office
    office call up and said that they were going to mount an exhibit of the same
    the things were in the Oval Office 101 Kennedy was


    President and the idea was to raise money for the visually became the Kennedy
    Kennedy Center Harvard and the question was would life magazines
    can be interested in doing such a story I said we wouldn
    12 conditions that we can get a cover for the graph of misses Kennedy
    Kennedy and that you would grab me a interview
    Williams with yes I’m the cover no ID
    what we did to a story when is real


    is result of the story the Kennedy family Missouri please I was invited to the opening
    running off of the exhibit in New York and I met Miss is Kennedy for the first time
    is the only time um I was wondering
    pull out of that meeting with her um I walked in
    um first time a Teddy Kennedy
    Kennedy and who introduce me to Bobby who I had known stomach
    stomach Stan and then Bobby turn to Jackie NSAID


    Jackie of this is $6 from life and she looked at me
    me and I was on eyes opened up and this is credible eBay
    recipe for a 60 dolly Douglas
    wonderful story well
    Icona melt away fat boys hahahaha
    I wanna um I want I want to turn on when we still have time we have about us
    what about 6 minutes left and there was a nother important meeting that you were


    you were part of when you were covering the Kennedy assassination for life not was
    helping to arrange the meeting for an interview with the wife and the mother of
    off of Lee Harvey Oswald and I’m just wondering about the memories you have
    you have about that event and what you were able to size up from the meeting the family
    family well tommy Thompson who was the course monitor with their
    nudity said I know Texas cops let me go after that part of the story what you did
    exclusive interview with members of the Aswan family um


    and photographs almost not a witch we ran back then
    them but they are in this new book incredible set a photograph
    Atami called me up and said he’s got the terrific story are the reporters
    Portishead not showed up yet but they said you going to he said I think we should hide the family
    now this me some kind of Horror fine but I greet a mediately and we brought them in
    into the hotel at the office and put them in the sweet it doesn’t sound like something out of the front page
    page what we were competitive Backpage


    so we did and does they came into
    will it set up this weed is out of office and they came an end
    I tell you I have this was it will be gone a
    family as I’ve ever seen that mean they would just despondent depressed
    it was Marinos spoken most no English that point I was the one
    the wife of the wife of Aleve Lee’s wife the brother Robert
    two tiny daughters and Levy and Roberts mother


    Marguerite Oswald who I hope it’s not libelous
    who is a tune up case and the f & she
    G was the most vocal of all the Wii
    we have a way that please don’t open the door after the phone but order
    order anything you want to from room service Robert
    at that point I said he needed a diapers and
    and baby food for these two daughters and I’ve given 40 bucks


    okay and if we did you meet
    never again after that I’ve sport of spoken to Marina a couple of times
    the phone English is much much better
    um and she she’s
    she’s change your mind about her husbands involvement and dumb
    firsy denied in tirely then she began acknowledging it
    and uh and no infection villages at b***


    but but says it was a conspiracy the other people were involved your own feelings
    Harvey Oswald acted alone that is my firm belief
    okay nothing nothing nothing pans out and you certainly looked at um a lot of materials
    Orioles in the files that you went over to write this new article District
    just nothing there that you feel that would gesture on answered questions
    Avant before and after but I was world was alone up there
    ultracet floor was a good marksman Dealey Plaza is unbelievable


    unbelievably small it wasn’t that a party shot um
    but I’d also do not think that he had any help from
    you know mysterious force is before or after work
    afterwards who was the killer mean after a shot the president shot Donna Dallas
    Dallas cop um he was a very disturbing man ok
    kay and you don’t think that the actions by about the shooting of all is well by Jack
    Ruby would have been a part of any larger conspiracy to keep things choir


    that Monday I wanted to find out about Ruby so we went to the carousel club strip club
    the team that he ran when we were life we talked away M
    do a vis dances with air and they make up saying oh my god
    I got the touch like that was so Jack he thought he was going to be a hero
    he didn’t want this is gonna do they have to come back to Dallas for trial
    he thought if you got rid of of Oswald he would be a hero
    they keep using that word hero anime convention that’s exactly


    exactly why did it interesting um um there are some on some telegram
    the printed in the day Kennedy died address to Jack Ruby essentially congratulating
    people for for for shooting Lee Harvey Oswald
    um 11 last question is cleaning up from a Twitter?
    Brandon about to the police about super film through a rolled Rivera
    Rivera using a bootleg copy and sassy of time live at the Fillmore
    who made the bootleg we gave we gave copies of


    the film to law enforcement agencies of all over Washington State
    State Department CIA Dallas PD there were many copies out there
    what there a & O & bootleg copies I think we’re probably star
    started making nose within days after the assessment
    sesames what we are out of time here of course there is a whole lot more the talk about
    about here and a whole lot more will be talked about in the next few days to come
    become the dolly I bet you have a pretty busy schedule yourself because because of this anniversary


    if it brings back man of many members as you can as you
    as you can what do you think you very much for being on focus today dicks Stalin edit
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