Encore: Onward Toward What We’re Going Toward

March 12, 2014

If you were going to create a town with fictional characters who could live anywhere in the world, where would those characters go when they go home? Your first inclination may not be central Illinois. After all, there are much more exciting places to set a novel. But Morton native and author Ryan Bartelmay says he wouldn’t think to write about characters living anywhere else. This hour on Focus, we'll listen back to when he talked with host Jim Meadows about his debut novel, “Onward Toward What We’re Going Toward.” We’ll hear about why he writes about cultures in small towns in the Midwest and will hear about a set of characters who make a living working at a pumpkin canning factory.

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you can place your characters wherever you want glamorous city of danger
dangerous wilderness lost at sea on the moon placement
greatest works places best for first time novelist Ryan Bart
Barton places Peoria especially small town nearby


given the name of the book on winter going to
mg metals and then f*** is Ryan talks about writing his first number
characters impulses travel with in house central Illinois
what part of food they are writer Ryan Park open today

program to do after the news
good morning I’m Jim meadows in this is focus in wyll you listening to anime


encore broadcast of a previous focus program why were not taking calls
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580 Middleville is a little town in central Illinois
you’ve never been to because it doesn’t exist but you may have been to other towns
that could be Melville could be home to the wall Beazer brothers chicken
chicken buddy and their respective families Ryan bar to make grew up in one of those
does towns and he made central Illinois the setting of his debut novel on


onward toward what we’re going toward published a few months back my EGR publishing
now feel like to be part of our conversation with Ryan Bader made a day you can email acid
it will dash talk at Illinois dot edu also welcome your questions on
Amazon Facebook and Twitter at focus 580 Ryan Bartimaeus on the phone with
fun with us from Chicago where he is the Dean of general education and Kendall come
do college Orion welcome to focus Happy New Year 2014 glad to have you
have you and I’m wondering Ryan first about the title on word toward what we’re going toward what is that


what is a title come from well um yeah I like that that thing song HRO
the title at what I was trying to title that actually the original
original title of the book wise chick Evans chick wallpaper with chicken
early draft a chick Evans in his own way and I like
I like this guy 105 title but as I continue to to work on
work on the book um when I got to the point where a chick started reading poetry
tree sap off of haikus that appear at the end


in the novel um that was called on we’re going
just like sing song plays on the soffit set up the town
the tone of the book I want to be playful I want to know that was a little play for
playful going in rifle so there was a time
what I do, you came up with as you were as you were writing a check will be Ceres portrait
poetry yes that’s correct okay just came to you in that way and I have to admit I was real
reading cinemas Baldwin some of this effort to be red eyes


it could happen anywhere in the country but I did the live for several years in the PR
the Peoria area and um I remember people trying to write poetry
3 all along those lines okay poetry that was really are technically
Glee quite bad but what is credible ease painful
painfully heartfelt right yeah yeah hot chicks poetry is heartfelt is bad
that’s true what I was trying to do with that is
an actual aware of writing poetry in central Illinois


when I was I started writing it when I was in New York in 2003
3 hour diet for 10 years actually I have a first 50
Sears York and Chicago
another 5 years um so yeah twins
address for the the the poetry I want to use that as a vehicle Tom Ford
for his dealing with the pain of a ton
IMAX I just fell FL price


hot to me um something that he discovered
what happens that actually when he was that uh uh library down
down his feelings in a library in point out to him that what he just written could be
bi2 and then he spends the next I 30 years
as ridin high
the terrace something playful little funny
funny about that what was one of the things I was trying to do with the f***


um I was trying to get at real human emotion
does also trying to get out funny I feel real
cyride ass to be to be in a tanning bed
when writing that important aspect of writing a short
short story or whatever is test center humoron
playfulness is is this is just there to entertain
no I check won’t be there I guess it really is the main character of the novel


what so much of the book is not just about him about his brother buddy and their wives
wives and families and and and and and also a and also Marriott Norwood
Norwood who comes into the story umm we’ll really on in the novel b***
what chronologically was quite a few years later uruz spread the other the hole
the whole action of the chorus about half a century write a rule Ryan how to store a
develop for you did you see the scope of it when you first started working on it or is it
send something that developed over time well um I guess I didn’t want to write a novel


I’m not with something out that I would willfully trying to do um
how many first novel to wire subject matter
if it clear first person novels contemporary novels
what might have written
the first person novels um a lot of them have to do with age
a weekend so I was
why was willfully trying to do something large I want to do you like a very ambitious


xScope novel characters
what I have to wear to slam that in 200 pages of the first come first
the first draft first couple draft the first five years really as I thought I was riding
riding a really short big scope of Allah
um and I really try to make that work under the influence
Barry Hannah paper writer of mine is novel read a witch
covers lot of time in is really short fast 5 years trying to do


before I realized I already been written and it was written by Barry
Hanna Andersson a way I could write that f*** so good I stumbled into the
the consciousness I’m part of the book where am I now
I’m out of the different characters consciousness chicken body
are there wives Ali G what is life
wife ass Dian chicks wife and then Mary Norwood
wood at her husband green Geneseo


I really really want to get a haircut chestnut and try to understand his character
characters om one reason I want to do this is because this is not my strength
princess as a writer what comes with riders dialogue in scene
what does not coming writing a character consciousness
add 5 years trying to teach myself how to inhabit that the conscious
consciousness of the character that really built a novel around that’s really work wear
where is larger and got bigger than a bit more ambitious synonym


which is actually really got a lot
a lot of fun for me at right the first couple years doing now
teaching myself struggle but after I turn a corner
corner lot of fun what was interesting the idea of a big knot
big novel I was reading publisher Robert last publishing calls your name
does your novel of Midwestern 100 Years of Solitude overstatement
will realize we get down to it there are only six main characters


actors Wright brothers there’s there’s a Bears on this is chicken done
Dian there’s buddy and is it leegit is the correct how do you pronounce a
yeah BGN actually it’s interesting because she’s an Indian American character
character add a name is legion I had a student
students of a while back when I was riding the novel American
the time I was trying to come up with um at her name
name and I just name turvy G American


woman who is that name just out
Nayeli thinking maybe a common Indian name as it turns out after
novels publication I was talking to a friend of mine
American woman at the name the characters
look at me like I never heard before
alot when I ride a nite rider I know right right
right right pick up the pieces later I realized


all the states that I have a nice life as a rider
make all of this stuff off and I have to go back in an incorrect things I didn’t
I didn’t change that because of that point that character of Miami
Willie G’s a very
pivotal character in the novel she’s married to buddy
but I see is someone that chick is attracted to when there’s a God
there’s a will there’s a very crucial backrub given very early


early in the novel with striped so many more vents after that it’s cracked death
yeah she she was the kind of the catalyst
best for wet what happened at writing desk jump
jumpstart a lot of like a domino effect on mouse pad
fatback Rob that she give check on his
wedding night early in the box first temple of pages in the box
what kind of cement what happened between


brothers family
on what you do to me
reading after reading the novel it seems that I’ll be so very
Gary Owen pulse of an lonely characters are in pulse of the only seem to be doing something
something to think I’ll make a real difference usually without much information to go on
Miley and lonely because none of them seem to have anybody to
define in Medina Mike give him a sounding board on whether or not they were doing the right thing


write you see these characters I do ya Messi the characters of all of them
all of them are are are lonely I take all of them are are driving to make a connection
and oftentimes I weigh that ass
aspiration connect to fast as a
perverted a sexual fantasy
um and I think what you mentioned in terms of i know it
impulsive I think that I think that’s correct I think they all have a desire to


do good to do the right thing but they jump at the
what the first thing that comes into their mind like chicken has fallen tree for Apple ID
the library drop something down and library
2 ne spend the next 30 years
years trying to write a haiku wholesome way to call about being a cop
how it um and to deal with your emotions


what is focus mg Meadows talking with rider Ryan Barton
Bartimaeus debut novel onward toward what we’re going toward is out from
from publishing if you have a question for Brian R phone number is 1 800
2229 455 email your question to will dance
dash Tonkin Illinois edu phone number again 1 800 222
222 wyll and you can also I send a message on Twitter and Facebook
look at focus 580 now that I’ve a loose sentence


in central Illinois in a town called Middleville with a pumpkin
pumpkin Camry and you yourself come from what temp for Morton
Morton Morton Illinois which is the capital of the world what’s up what’s up with a large Libby’s
Nestle’s um um pumpkin cannery it’s about 10
why don’t know about the 10 15 miles of the West east of pizza peel
Peoria cross the river is Right crack and so I’m wondering Middleville
you know we could be more could be a lot of small towns in Tazewell County was the idea


Church Middle Village imagine is a
is that is a fictitious town in early draft I II name
name of town Centralia south
and I like the name Centralia I’m at Joe Satriani
Ryder um and I now
Joe Centralia and then I built up Centralia with all of the eye
Morton landmarks basically a pumpkin counter Rihanna Main Street with


with out with 6 which is the department store that was important Stafford
a family of grocery store that was in Morton IL
clothes with six sense close and then when you know what I sold
sold the book 2 gig I made that change changed from Centralia to
20 pound kettlebell live it up that
Batman because I asked I worry that someone from Southern Illinois from central
baby yourself would read a novel and say what is not a fan of a pumpkin can


can cats with 6 that was there so I got a little nervous
fictionalized at why do recognize a lot of names in the cannery in Wichita
what six remember San Francisco accident on over the area when I was okay
ok in Peoria certified Gary bass convenience store chain price
alot of other names for Peoria Rivermen the paradise casino the other one world
coffee houses are all anybody in Peoria Illinois does places right that’s correct
is using actual and Mark part of the second star to the book when I was


Park Ave I graduate school
what time at a little homesick for birth control
Illinois Central remember if your fat
central Illinois 1993 to go to college
College undergrad University of Iowa Iowa City can I live
after graduating college town in Austin Texas for couples
couple years in Boston for New Years in New York


reading stories about a small town
Illinois more lasses trying to understand I think
where where I came from what about Illinois
how do I do the landmarks II and I know what I know the details
tales from Portland to know the details when your trying to create something to an error
narrative in artificial narrative with the word that is doing research
stuff to my imagination TaxACT


that’s the reason why I said it there I didn’t
I didn’t I didn’t a chance to go online from your website a night should know you do for website
Ryan Bartel Maine dot com.com is incorrect
and I will make sure to get a link on a little later on our website will.
Illinois edu slash Focus hybrid Aldis flatness which I believe
you set in Deer Creek on the Mackinac Bridge right yeah that’s true and Mackinaw
also flows through your fictional Middleville is well it does Jack Mack on River Road in Portland


River to me growing up by I use to can you with my dad
is France and Mackinaw River we had a app that had friends
friends have I got a deer hunting cabin on the Mackinac Bridge Mackinac
over the river so I spend alot of time around Mackinac bratty kid
River cabins
app that has a portent part of my childhood side does show up
quite a bit set when we have a cooler in and out we have to


we have to take a gentleman because he’s calling for Morton and dumb
online Foretrex for morning good morning urine focus morning
good morning I just want to know if Ryan
is trying to put tray on the Dark Side of the people’s
personalities um are the dark side of
does the Falling Man RR a human bean does the novel seems to be
somewhat dark throughout everybody striving to get somewhere


and that’s my question
sure that’s some think that was intense
intentional that I ave what in the penis darkest what is bad
at the characters of struggling is much is struggling 5
think again in one of the things that drive me as it as a rider
Ryder um to to write is it to try to understand something
why don’t I go into a book RR short story


trying to understand I will try to understand people
Illinois um and then what comes out
the darkness or whatever I buy product of fat
certainly that something that act that came out of the box
f***  orexin thank you very much for your
search for your call you know I’m just just for my 2 cents I got the idea
reading this book this is a book in which no one seems to get clay


quite what they want but they sure are trying hard is it
is is is is is is is that accurate a thing Ryan yeah absolutely
might be a mom
you can really teach a worldview in NM this is part of my my world
world you think that um I think that’s honest I think a lot of people driving
driving test note to search your life and I don’t always end up doing
what they want to do all does a try and I think there’s something really


beautiful about the trying to struggle something Universal Rawlings age
working on that I think maybe part of the darkness
what is is the honesty that we do fail and a lot of people
people fail a lot of people don’t get what they say set out to do a hot flash
do you think that’s going to be on is is an ongoing semen you’re working your shorts
short stories in the Bible so far or do you want to write about people who are you
who are able to be on the market tomorrow um so far


farting a lot of it has been what were talking about
actually on my wife out of my work cheats to make a comet
sometimes I stare at your work is so fat
sad person I’m not a fat person have a lot to be to work at you
beautiful daughters 13 2 month old wonderful wife
wife what is just um it just happens that you know the way that I see you
the struggle of humanity I guess is that


lotto a lot of striving um and not quite Grafton
after not quite getting what what you may want out of life
now I suppose and I don’t know if this was on something or call it was was wondering about
is if I ain depicting these people as as as
really 20 on the dark sides and their lack of success in offense going wrong
you are making a comment about a bad people in central Illinois people in
Ellen Morton where were you grew up or just about people in general


people in general um I’m not in my ass
why it is that supposed to be a parent as a trail
all of the people in central Illinois don’t see all of the people
you don’t want to end up like Michael Ealy mastersons name is mud
is hometown because of the Spoon River anthology right right job that way
you know that yeah yeah that that’s not my attempt
alot of its just me trying to understand


the human condition that ends in trouble and you know what that means nice asses
set this book in central Illinois because I know the details I know that that’s easy to say
riders bag accessory there at work
work places because they say in the area Faulkner
North Mississippi Hemingway and I
Academy stories that are all in the Michigan area
area riders do if dead help


easier now ah terms of the Internet
look up a lot of the tails in Everett ruined in an increase
increase the artifice off of artifice and create
the world just buy a cherry picking details of Internet
do a little bit of this that and the f*** with a Las Vegas to LA
Las Vegas wife about Las Vegas
street name stripper dick in Las Vegas


internet in with the Google Maps you can figure out street name
names located in UK I ll make it you’ll like
like Las Vegas are the writers for from Las Vegas
like I said I did do that b***
Air and you know I’m something something king
there are the physical that there is there are the physical places you could you


what you could I draw the names of any particular place NC mention about writing about Las
Las Vegas going to the internet you close your eyes and think that your hometown does
does it evolve a certain feeling a certain atmosphere to you and can you describe
scribe that yeah I mean um
certainly dies ah the feeling that I am about
is it I have
have for a small town um I was after another


interview at app review talking about how I have to
1119 of the dying of the town that was intentional
but it possible that part of artifice mean
small town anymore I live in Chicago different bed
everytime I go down on my parents to live there
I go down to central Illinois frequently in the end
feel the contract I’m so maybe part of it was the


I’ll be leaving small town
how that part of me is gone and I don’t have
I don’t have a desire porn
maybe it’s my own coming of age well that I was working out
what were talking with Ryan Bartimaeus the author of onward toward what word
what were going toward his first novel have from a publishing what’s the short break and women
when we come back alright if you got a copy of your book with you you could you could read your text


Amedisys focus on wyll
my back with focus on wyll AM 580 im Jim meadows
does listening to an encore edition of focus when not taking life own call
this hour but we welcome your feedback on our website at will.illinois.edu
edu slash focused right now we’re talking with Ryan Bartimaeus first novel
onward toward what we’re going toward came out a few months back from egg publishing
follows the lives of the wall beezers chicken Diane buddy and Lisa G


as they try to find some sort of happiness in small towns in Illinois with cational for raise
into Peoria and Ryan if you have an excerpt
ready for the book if you want to set us up urine what’s going on church so
um I’m going to read a short actor Pierre takes place in eyes
1998 Saab the books band 50 year
years and one of the story lines is chic wall be there at aerie chat
Janet yo add those to have a romantic relationship


for about 2 months with a flirt with um I going to Florida
how to run away to Florida where to check if I had his honeymoon
is wife Elvis’s from June 16 1998
fried chicken Mary at just me just mass
ad Mary is going to take a check from the paradise
paradise riverboat casino to ob to a bar that she’s been high
black ass


very sad side chick in a minivan bag
back slap she didn’t know anything about have accepted he was interested in her or she
thought he was interested in her she can be sure she was losing losing her touch
used to be able to get a man’s attention to the Cowboys the brazen bull with Internet
can i order down to this guy
if you didn’t seem like you should told her that have to be there
is there for company after the third time Chicago to nursing home corrected her


technically assisted living facility he said with a smirk
assistance living like he was making a joke but she wasn’t sure she got a joke
it mean that you need help going to the bathroom and stuff like that she asked them
Anne said that’s not what u mass she waited for the punchline but never came
instead of her like she was supposed to say something but she didn’t say anything
can I smell in the van musty and sweaty and Mary new iMac coming from
check or could be Greensboro suits with which were in the laundry bag behind


baby Sun Hat bake them to crack the window whisper voice
voice winner had told her that this was a bad idea was in the hospital and she was in a minute
van with a bad could be the reason actually probably was the reason for the old
the old man smell chicken smile ready
where is Oliver be sad very turned on the ignition the radio rock 103
106 Peoria classic rock station lasted heart Barracuda from the speaker
speakers she love this song remember the time when she thought of herself as a barracuda


chi class in a rear view mirror install retirement home by your back out of a parking spot
carefully before she could halfway out she had to stop letting people walking
6th grade class cross behind her a white hair lady
lady with Walker made eye contact with her while bald guy in flannel shirt
wrist watch with very thought of green hospital is ham
hand last night’s NFL phony long fingers with pencil
she had what happened to the human body over time you need to get back to the hospital


voice that we doing with this guy chicks with fat chicks
down in the back and chest don’t say anything there’s more
Morris don’t move guy wearing a members only when you’re alive
looking around concern right left over her shoulder chick with scratch so far down
is practically on the floor supposed to be on a pot Jesus Christ
price the new low she was kidnapped in an old man
is assisted living residents allowed way back


you asked him did you ask him to come with you
greed likes you use with a light, or think you could like him
I’m driving back to we care accept from a substitution
in Middleville and that’s a neck
xnxn from onward toward what we’re going toward read by the author
Ryan bartlomiej Mary Geneseo is who I called Mary
Mary Norwood corset was her maiden name Marley stir on her previous their previous


previous name for any previous marriages shemale pad ob I was
strokos without Mary’s character who is
set by voice is essentially the voices of the two sides of her conscience
chance the loudest voice in the whispering voice right and dumb
that was that was really a character worry hurts the most interior
dialogue long because of you because of the loud voice the whispering voice
voice are always arguing over what she should do right yeah I was really


who is really with that I was really interested in the conflict of these two voices in Turbo
pulling her ass in two different directions to whether or not
give into this and Paul talking about character in a bowl
earlier what are the importance of going to
Florida with check in check out Florida which you want to go to
op 40 chasing down his past in E
Florida second chance with Mary


yo a** write his
is is life is life is passed away
and then the other voices for telling her that
fat that she can’t do that anymore spend her entire life doing that married
8910 time numerous times too many times to relieve a cow
count account man in her life
Hakeem from a man to man to man to man


other another time worksheets that important to do it yet again
telling her that you can’t stop doing that
play that out in her
consciousness trying to get that alot of
lot of us thinking that way I know that I’ve automat way for
I have to go to voice is in your head
opposite direction are you on your characters


how tall like specific people you’ve known are are are you drunk
drawing from a whole lot of people in constructing a drive from a lot of people
the book a kind of started when I started writing at
like I said lack like in New York um I was thinking about
about eyes this man his name was I check advance
at night I use to clean wool country
Airport how much is a small local 41 Morton Tom and eyes to swell


swim at with friends when I was 10 11 12 years old in Houston
how to clean a pool in at the time he was a retired ad
I was always really interested in his name he was around the community a lot
lots basketball high school basketball game running
high school talk to him about sport and then
name chick Evans with the name so I started writing this story eyes
IAAI I just have to use the name and started venting


a life for his name has nothing to do with chicken
person in Wharton but I really like the name in MA
eventually change the name to check wall to wall theater is a family name of mine
myNet gay chicken
that last check chicken no I don’t
anything on bike 141 characters
tell me how long does it take you to write the book


workout for 10 years 10 years of pretty regularly are offset on um
pretty regular I mean I would stop to work out the projects
you mentioned earlier that you read this story I’m Office flat ass
fat ass house work on the Parkside I would take breaks and I
short story come back to its my processor
process as a writer s how to write a draft
draft and then I will bring it out reaDit


note that I have literally kind of um
set the next to me and I retake the whole thing Paige Wyatt
white page by page um banana tempura inhabited
the novel the characters the Texas
a long time to do that are you re writing as you re type yes
absolutely gas on large things I’m drinking bag
Hanjin what are some of the biggest changes


changes you made over 100 over your multiple drafts
what is consciousness for one that was kind of the biggest when we spoke about that
that earlier jacket consciousness that really hot enlarged
the characters Mary Geneseo is consciousness
the the whisper voicemail loud voice audition
Deshun that baby K minutes 607 like that
that um so these things that I’ve that would a tangent that I follow


Maryland baby I can I can enlarge her consciousness by
Best Buy having two different voices that she. In her consciousness
that would be one really major difference
this of course was the first novel you had attempted um
who was the running process by itself just trying to put together a novel
finally found a spot I mean I can cook with it for
so yeah I end a lot of it was just know


teaching myself how to how to write a novel
um at that that that that
overcoming um I might go to
if it’s difficult what to write
bad overcoming up my own voices in my head
talking about why you trying to do this
caricature trying to write a love boys in Westbury Voice yourself


guided yeah early when you’re when you’re when you’re writing your
kind of a in overcoming the voices in your head that are telling you
why is it that at this
why was St Paul of the temptations if you’re going to spend 10 years
should know you were in graduate school during a lot of this time in your studies
creative writing so you said they had some impotence to right right
um but it would just be so easy to give up yeah absolutely


I mean it is it is it is it is it is easy to give up but
message to something um what I’m really interested in writing is the discipline
the point of it going to everyday I am working for an hour
hour by hour and a half to hours whatever whatever it is
something that is started
meditative um to do that and that’s really was important
the the publishing and Happiness


that’s a by product in math that’s great in it
define and I like talking to you about the f******
reviews Sol a sol byproduct of the real work
the day today struggle of trying to rise
trying to understand things about yourself and
humanity condition I’m not really what it’s about I mean um
there their and I hope you continue to write on


novels because that’s really wear Elvis really work
fastest working at my work on another f****** baby to take another test
baby won’t get published what the actual active writing and doing it
going to the basketry day inhabited that at
space I think that that that they can be a better person
better father import
well that’s interesting I think that’s the first time I’ve heard somebody talk about the actor


act of writing as being worthy worthy in itself
rather than just the means towards the end I think I’m for lots of riders
who are glad to a produced books but but then the necessary
enjoy the process of doing so mean enjoys interest
interesting words like the right words right Inc
um I think it’s just the way I had to engage in an app
processing mean let’s face it I don’t make em i dont make a living


the writer you know I’m not yet anyway to not a lot of money to be made as a right
the writer um in the pressure to do to make a living out where would have to be
would be so I meant to live on your craft of the refrigerator
writer that I’m not sure I could handle that what would I can’t handle it
is is is is doing doing this no. And trying times
understand myself and condition like I said I’m going to it
send using it as a form of meditation to form of a triangle


better person really that’s that’s what’s interesting
that’s what I win when does the voice start talking in my head as I’m working
working on PC action pretty dark times
because I sleep affirmations to publish
what you’re doing its not very good at work red eye mean I have to remind myself
myself if that’s not the point no point isn’t that isn’t
is in the results of the Labour the points is a labor and doing work


work well we are talking with a Ryan bottle made of
who’s on first novel on we’re toward what we’re going toward your on focus
Jim Meadows still time for your questions for Ryan at 1 800 222 945
455 email acid will dash talk at Illinois .edu
phone number again 1 800 222 wyll Bryan
what you just said about being a writer being one who writes in the act
the Act writing being valuable itself for hamsters in contrast to what you have a chicken


logic won’t be doing who was once he discovers that some of his
really sad thoughts can be fashion in a haiku
decides to be a poet which means for him growing up scraggly little beer
beard and and and and and wearing a beret this is all part of being a poet
what is Mars is Farsi is concerned yeah baby I’m part
I’m part of that is why I was working out my myself what is this
what does it mean to be a writer does it mean to be a writer’s how many appearances


and you know it in the novel that mad fat guy
gross French beard Witches of a little bit of hair on anything
where to buy red corduroy blazer in the book part of a poet
guess what I was saying there to myself
that’s not what writers out about trying
what is out and in what you did
who did finish a book and you also got it published with eg publishing which of


from what I’ve looked at it sounds like an interesting publishing house in itself if you can tell me anything about it
sure yeah egg is a a small independent press
craft and um in Brooklyn New York at about handbook
your mom have 4500 literary fiction
directions to have a nonfiction book well
husband and wife team who are the editors ass
I met them in 2009 at


AWP which is a
writing conferences with it different cities
Chicago 2009 my friend Davey D
I wrote a question short stories of captive audience in a crate
story egg and he wasn’t like
2009 Robert F ass
short stories is well I said to them in 2000


had they didn’t take fat collection short stories short stories
what year after that I got an email 2011
from Elizabeth I edecan she have
thinking about your writing and I was wondering if you ever finish that novel that you are
what you were working on iphone write a novel
Hermy short stories and I haven’t finished it
um I was working on the last draft the time but I told her when I finish that I want


Dover to her dad I am
and I’m wondering what surf reaction has this book on back
in your hometown of Martin um from from the people who died for free
Earth from its got a pretty good reaction to reading air
early on in September AdvoCare
best ass I am
people there 7500 people that’s pretty good ground for reading


Peoria Area reading for theres like 6 17
74 there in a thing was it you know that is a
small town small town new every one that was there
girlfriends of my family and friends parents my parents and friends of mine
miles from high school overwhelming mean
published I know I’ve been away from work for for a long time
time I think some people may have known that I was aspiring to be a cop a ride


rider high was kind of out of my forehead
my first attempt to f***
why did I have 11 gentlemen I came up to me I am
when I grow up with his kids he’s my parents age Tom and ass
find a Ruger art Garden City
is that I used to name the family garden at the SSID character in the park
Nicki Minaj beez in the first book


f*** first novel that I’ve Radford High School witches
best flattery thats that he was in Spanish time pottery
not a reader Adventist I’m reading a novel
heard that kind of
people that it’s like watching a movie
down for an hour and a half and watch and watch it fall
it takes a number of hours in the f*** is fornication


pages so that sounds like it was a girl
really positive experience for what is after all a book about very unhappy
unhappy people living in your hometown yeah um all the way I should say
saying I think you eat you said you use trove put it in there but it is funny
it is funny a lot of the time and I wasn’t I wasn’t sorry to be spending time with these people but they’re so
there’s so unhappy right right yeah um like I said they are
they are unhappy but through the humor in a bucket is funny ass n t***


how to freestyle eyes that I log into care
characters elements of flapjack I think in the box
and like I said I do I do have a desire
um I don’t think I can force myself from my world you
but I can balance it out with trying to make it entertaining
characters who are struggling happy
O’Ryan Bartman want to thank you for writing on we’re Georgia


what we’re going towards thank you for coming on focus to talk about it do you have a second
second novel in the works I don’t right now why are you plan to work
work on something my wife and I just had our second daughter regulation
relation to take you to months ago so I am and I’m your waist Ethan
father right now tell if I wore number material
serial being created right as we speak exactly yeah absolutely
absolutely but gets it to 129 looking forward


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