Mid-American Gardener: rabbit attacks on fruit trees, ornamental grasses and spring frost

April 17, 2014

Horticulture expert Dianne Noland and special guest panelists Jim Angel, Larry Shobe and John Bodensteiner discuss rabbit attacks on Fuji apple and pear trees, ornamental grasses, spring frost, milkweeds and their effect on Monarch butterfly's, what types of bushes to spruce up walkways, how to test the temperature of your ground soil and much more.

>>> HELLO, GARDENERS.
WELCOME TO MID-AMERICAN GARDENER. WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US.  WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ALL THINGS PLANTS, AND MAYBE EVEN WEATHER RELATED THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PLANTS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND TUNING IN.
I AM DIANNE NOLAND.
I TEACH HORTICULTURE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS IN THE CROP SCIENCES DEPARTMENT AND THE COLLEGE OF ACES.
MY AREA IS CUT FLOWERS AND LANDSCAPE PLANTS, MOSTLY PERENNIALS.
NOW, WHO ELSE IS HERE AND WHAT IS THEIR EXPERTISE?
LISTEN UP, AND YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS THAT WAY.
I WILL THROW IT OVER TO YOU JOHN BODENSTEINER.
>>I AM A VERMILLION COUNTY MASTER GARDENER.
MY INTERESTS ARE IF IT IS GREEN AND GROWS, I THINK I LIKE IT.
>>MORE SPECIFIC.
>>I LIKE TOMATOES.
I LIKE PERENNIALS ESPECIALLY HOSTAS.
I HAVE GOT FRUIT TREES WHICH LEADS ME INTO MY FIRST QUESTION.
IT IS KIND OF WEATHER RELATED BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME OR EVERY YEAR DURING THE WINTER ESPECIALLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LISTENERS.
ONE HAD A FUJI APPLE TREE THAT WAS COMPLETELY GIRDLED.
WHEN I SAY GIRDLED, THIS IS WHAT I MEAN, THIS WOUND RIGHT HERE.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE TREE.
THIS COULD BE SAVED WITH A LOT OF TECHNICAL HELP.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY—ALMOST LIKE A SKIN GRAFT.  THEY TAKE A PIECE OF BARK FROM ANOTHER PART OF A PLANT AND GRAFT IT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE REALLY LUCKY.
MOST OF THE TIME IT IS NOT WORTH IT.
THEN I HAD ANOTHER LADY WITH A PEAR TREE, AND THE REASON THIS WAS WORSE THIS YEAR BECAUSE THE SNOW GOT UP HIGHER.  THEY DIDN’T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO EAT.
THE CAMBIUM LAYER ON TREES IS VERY NUTRITIONAL, IT IS HIGH IN ENERGY.
THEY REALLY DO LIKE IT.
THE LADY WITH THE FUJI APPLE, I DOUBT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE THAT TREE.
IT WILL PROBABLY BE A LOT EASIER TO GO OUT AND BUY A NEW ONE.
THE LADY WITH THE PEAR TREE, HERS DIDN’T SEEM TO BE QUITE AS BAD.
HERS WAS UP HIGHER, AND IT SOUNDED MORE LIKE JUST A WOUND, AND THEN SOME ON THE BRANCH THAT GOT GIRDLED.
THIS BRANCH HERE GOT GIRDLED.
THAT, YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO TRIM OFF.
WHAT I SUGGEST IS THEY HAVE THESE THAT WORK FAIRLY NICE, BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THEM ON BEFORE THE SNOW FLY, AND THEY ARE PRETTY ADAPTABLE TO BRANCHES.
THEY HAVE GOT THESE LITTLE HOLES IN THEM WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT THE STEM IN.
OF COURSE, IT WILL LEAVE IT OPEN TO RABBITS, DEER, WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE EATING IT.
ANOTHER THING THAT YOU CAN DO IS PUT A SMALL FENCE AROUND THE TREE.
SOMETIMES YOU MAY NEED TO MAKE IT WIDE ENOUGH THEY CAN’T REACH OVER IT.
BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE FUJI APPLE, THAT ONE, BEING IT IS GIRDLED, SOMETIMES IT WILL BE GONE.
SOMETIMES IT MAY REPAIR.
IF IT DOES CALLUS OVER, THAT’S FINE.  BUT THIS YEAR, WITH THE WEATHER WE HAD, I THINK WE WILL HAVE NOT ONLY ON FRUIT TREES, BUT JUST ABOUT A LOT OF YOUR TREES.
>>JOHN, IF THAT HAS BEEN A SMALLER DIAMETER TREE, AND IT WAS ABOVE THE GRAFT, A PERSON COULD CUT THAT OFF BY A BUD, COULDN’T THEY?
>> CORRECT.
>>AND IT WOULD GROW OVER?
>> AND IT WOULD GROW OVER.
THIS IS TOO LARGE.
>>THIS IS TOO LARGE.
IF IT WAS ABOVE THE GRAFT.
IF IT IS ABOVE THE GRAFT, YOU STILL MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
IF IT HAS EATEN ABOVE THE GRAFT.
IF IT IS BELOW THE GRAFT, THEN YOU ARE JUST GOING TO GET ROOT STOCK.
THAT’S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME APPLE THAT YOU HAD—IT WILL NOT BE A FUJI APPLE OR A PEAR TREE YOU WILL WANT TO.
>>THANK YOU, JOHN, AND OUR VIEWERS.
A BIT OF A SOME TOM.
>>THIS YEAR UNFORTUNATELY, IT WILL BE THE CASE.
>>THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LET’S GO ON TO YOU, LARRY SHOBE, IN THE MIDDLE.
I AM THE GROUNDS GARDENER FOR EASTERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY.
>>I DEAL WITH FLOWERS, SHRUBS, TREES AND VINES TO SOME DEGREE, FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
SO I HAVE ONE HERE FROM A VIEWER WHO WANTS TO KNOW HOW HE CAN REDUCE THE SIZE OF HIS ORNAMENTAL GRASSES WHICH HAVE GOTTEN LARGE AND ARE TAKING UP TOO MUCH ROOM IN HIS FLOWER BED.
HE WAS ASKING IF HE COULD PUT A BUCKET OR SOMETHING OVER THE CENTER OF THE GRASS AND THEN SPRAY IT WITH ROUNDUP.
YOU CAN DO THAT PROVIDED YOU CUT THE GRASS OFF IN THE SPRING OF THE YEAR, AND PUT SOMETHING OVER THE VERY PART OF IT, THE CENTER THAT YOU WANT TO PROTECT.
BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO LET THAT GRASS GET STARTED GROWING, THE NEW GRASS BECAUSE THAT’S THE ONLY WAY THAT ROUNDUP WILL WORK.
IT IS A CONTACT KILLER WITH THE NEW GREEN GRASS.
IF YOU ARE DOING IT BEFORE THAT DATE WHILE IT IS STILL BROWN, IT WILL NOT DO A BIT OF GOOD.
YOU MUST WAIT UNTIL IT IS GROWING AND THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO KILL IT.
BUT MAKE SURE YOU HAVE GOT IT COVERED IF YOU ARE USING A BUCKET, THAT IT FITS DOWN TIGHT SO NONE OF THE ROUNDUP WILL GET ON ANY OF THOSE STEMS THAT IS UNDER THE BUCKET, AND YOU WILL BE FINE.
>>LOOKING AT ONE OF MY CLUMPS OF ORNAMENTAL GRASS, AND I WILL START TAKING DIVISIONS OFF OF IT AND REAL SMALL ONE, NICE SHARP SPADE.
THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK FOR THIS PERSON, BUT IT IS POSSIBLE.
>>RIGHT.
YOU CAN MAKE IT ROUND AGAIN AND TAKE OUT THAT OUTER EDGE, HOWEVER DEEP YOU NEED IT.
>>PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE TO LIFT THE WHOLE THING AND DIVIDE IT.
YOU KIND OF TAKE ALL THE LITTLE SECTIONS ON THE SIDE.
>>JUST TAKE YOUR SPADE DOWN A SPADE IS A GOOD TOOL TO USE, AND THEN GET BENEATH THE GRASS.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE TOO MUCH INCHES BENEATH SECTION YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT AND IT WILL WORK JUST FIND.
>>IT IS CALLED ROOT PRUNING.
>>THAT’S RIGHT.
>>ROOT PRUNING.
SO THERE IS ANOTHER WAY OR DO A COMBINATION.
>>YOU COULD ASK A NEIGHBOR IF THEY WANT SOME AND HAVE THEM DO THE WORK.
OH, SNEAKY.
>>IF YOU ARE UP IN YEARS, HAVE A YOUNGER PERSON DO THAT FOR YOU.
>>WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF GREAT IDEAS HERE.
THANK YOU, LARRY. I WILL THROW THE DIAS OVER TO DR. JIM ANGEL.
>> HI.
I AM JIM ANGEL.
I AM THE ILLINOIS STATE CLIMATOLOGIST AND ILLINOIS STATE WATER SURVEY, SO INTERESTED IN GARDENING AND HOW WEATHER AFFECTS GARDENING AND HOW IT AFFECTS GARDENERS THIS YEAR.
WE ALL GOT STUCK INSIDE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I DO THE SHOW IN THE SPRING IS WE TALK ABOUT THE LAST DATE OF THE SPRING FROST.
FROST IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS ALWAYS IS MID-APRIL.
IF YOU GET IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, IT IS EARLY APRIL.
BY THE TIME YOU GET IN NORTHERN ILLINOIS, IT IS LATE APRIL.
IT SPANS THE MONTH OF APRIL AS YOU GO ACROSS THE STATE.
USUALLY I WOULD ADD A WEEK OR TWO ONTO THAT JUST TO BE ON SAFE SIDE.
PEOPLE ASK ME THE AVERAGE IS APRIL 15.
I DON’T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ON THE 16TH THEY ARE OKAY TO PLANT.
>>AND I BELIEVE, I REMEMBER AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I REMEMBER FROST MAY 20.
MAY 20!
>>THAT’S RIGHT.
OTHER THING GIVES US A LOT OF FITS, WE HAD A LOT OF WARM WEATHER EARLY ON.
IT GETS EVERYTHING GOING AND THEN THE LATE FROST.
THIS YEAR WITH COLD WINTER AND COLD SPRING, NOT WORRIED ABOUT A LATE FROST BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS SO SLOW TO BEGIN WITH.
THAT SEGWAYED INTO MY NEXT TOPIC WHICH IS SOIL TEMPERATURES.  THAT’S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE BEEN SO SLOW THIS SPRING, THE SOIL TEMPERATURES HAVE BEEN COLD.
30’S AND 40S THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND NOW GETTING INTO THE 50’S.
THIS WINTER, THEY HAD A LOT OF FROST IN THE GROUND.
SO HOPEFULLY IT KILLS OFF SOME OF THE PESTS.
WE SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.
ONE THING TO ATTRACT SOIL TEMPERATURES, I USE A MEAT THERMOMETER, ONE HERE THAT COSTS THREE DOLLARS AT THE STORE, A REAL HIGH TECH SOLUTION.
BUT WHAT IT DOES IS TELL YOU THE SOIL TEMPERATURES.
SOME THINGS NEED CERTAIN TEMPERATURES TO GERMINATE.
KIND OF THE COLD SEASON, VEGETABLES NEED 35.
>>IT IS NOT ALL THAT LONG, IS IT?
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
ONLY A COUPLE INCHES.
MOSTLY INTERESTED IN THE NEAR SURFACE TEMPERATURES.
IF IT IS IN THE 50’S, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WILL GERMINATE AS WELL.
IT IS A NICE QUICK WAY TO CHECK THE SOIL TEMPERATURES.  YOU CAN GO ONLINE AT THE WATER SURVEY, AND WE HAD A SOIL TEMPERATURES NETWORK IN CHECKING AROUND THE STATE.
BUT I ALSO CAUTION YOU, YOU DON’T WANT TO PUT IT IN YOUR POT ROAST AFTER YOU PUT IT IN THE GROUND.
>>WISE DECISION.
PUT IT IN THE SHED!
THANK YOU, JIM, WE ARE INTERESTING WHEN WE CAN GET OUT AND PLANT.
LET’S GO TO A SPECIAL “DID YOU KNOW” NEXT.
>>OKAY, LET’S GO NEXT TO THE PHONE LINES.  WE ARE GOING TO GO TO LINE ONE, A QUESTION ABOUT BAMBOO.
HELLO, THERE LINE ONE.
>>CALLER: YES.
I BOUGHT THIS BAMBOO, I PROBABLY HAD IT 15 YEARS.
AND THIS BAMBOO WAS GUARANTEED TO BE RESISTANT TO 15 TO 20 BELOW.
>>CAN YOU TURN YOUR TELEVISION OFF PLEASE.
I CAN HEAR—YEAH, TURN YOUR TV OFF, PLEASE.
KEEP GOING.
>>CALLER: ANY RATE, THIS YEAR IT DIED, ALL OF IT.
I HAVE TWO BIG PATCHES.
>>LARRY KNOWS!
>>CALLER: IS THE ROOT STILL ALIVE?
HOW DO I TREAT THIS NEXT?
>> OUR WINTER HAS BEEN SO SEVERE THIS YEAR, YOU ARE AHEAD TO CUT IT DOWN FLUSH WITH THE GROUND.
AND IT WILL COME UP, AND IT WILL BE QUITE TALL BEFORE THE SEASON IS OVER.
THERE WILL BE SEVERAL NEW CANES COME UP, AND THEY WILL BE FINE.
BUT YOU WILL HAVE BROWN IN IT ALL SUMMER IF YOU TRY TO LEAVE IT.
THERE MIGHT BE A FEW SHOOTS THAT WILL LEAF OUT THAT VERY FEW THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE CUT OUR’S AT EASTERN DOWN TO THE GROUND, AND THEY WILL START OVER.
>> SAME WILL GO FOR BUTTERFLY BUSHES.
>>CREPE MYRTLE.
>>CREPE MYRTLE.
BUT THOSE TWO WILL COME UP AND BLOOM IN A GROWING SEASON GENERALLY UNLESS WE WOULD HAVE A VERY COOL SUMMER.
MY CHICAGO FIG DID THE SAME THING.
>>THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
LET’S GO ON TO BRAD’S QUESTION LINE TWO ABOUT A FIG.
HI THERE, BRAD?
>>CALLER: HELLO.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
>>YOU ARE WELCOME.
>>CALLER: I HAD A BROWN TURKEY FIG I GOT THROUGH MAIL ORDER CATALOG.
IT IS HARDY TO ZONE FIVE.
I CAN PLANT IT IN THE GROUND.
BUT I HAVE ANOTHER BOOK THAT SAYS ZONE EIGHT.
SO IS IT REALLY HARDY OR NOT OR SHOULD I PUT IT IN A POT?
>> I THINK THAT ONE I WOULD PUT IN A POT.
I HAVE A CHICAGO HARDY FIG THAT IS ZONE SIX.
I BELIEVE THE OTHER IS A ZONE EIGHT.
I DON’T THINK THAT THAT ZONE FIVE ANYWHERE.
SO UNLESS IT IS A NEW VARIETY THAT I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
BUT MINE DIED TO THE GROUND.
BUT THAT IS ZONE SIX VARIETY, AND LAST YEAR IT DIDN’T DIE ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND.
IT DID COME UP ABOUT A FOOT HIGH.
BUT I MULCHED IT HEAVILY, TOO.
SO I WOULD KEEP IT IN A POT.
PUT IT OUTSIDE AS SOON AS YOU ARE PRETTY SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE FROST.
IF YOU HEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 36, 34, I WOULD TAKE IT IN JUST TO BE SURE BECAUSE THOSE NEW TENDER LEAVES ARE GOING TO BE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO COLD TEMPERATURES.
BUT MY EXPERIENCE IS IT IS PROBABLY ZONE 8, CHICAGO HARDY IS ONLY ONE THAT I KNOW IS ZONE SIX.
I HAVEN’T SEEN ANY THAT ARE ZONE FIVE.
BUT THE ONLY THING IF YOU DON’T WANT TO DIG IT EVERY YEAR, YOU CAN, LIKE JOHN SAID, MULCH THAT, AND IT WILL CERTAINLY COME UP IF YOU PLANT IT A LITTLE DEEP WHEN YOU FIRST PLANT THEM, AND YOU MULCH THEM, THEY WILL COME UP EVERY YEAR.
THEY WILL NOT PRODUCE FRUIT PROBABLY IF THEY GO DOWN TO THE GROUND.
BUT THROUGH MILD WINTERS, YOU CAN MULCH THEM OR PUT PROTECTION AROUND THEM, AND THEY WILL LIVE THROUGH AND FRUIT FOR YOU.
>>WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
LET’S GO ON NEXT TO CAROL’S QUESTION ON LINE THREE.
IT IS ABOUT RED RASPBERRIES.
HI, CAROL.
LINE THREE.
CAROL, ARE YOU THERE?
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION WHICH IS PROBABLY ON LINE FOUR.
HI. IS THERE SOMEONE ON LINE FOUR?
>>CALLER: HELLO.
>>WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?
>>CALLER: I HAVE A BUTTERFLY BUSH.
DANG THING IS ABOUT EIGHT, NINE FOOT TALL, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HOME.
>>WON’T BE ANY MORE.
>>CALLER: I WANT TO KNOW HOW FAR AND WHEN I SHOULD TRIM IT?
>> WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, EIGHT OR NINE FOOT BUTTERFLY.
>>IT WON’T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE THE SIZE.  IT DIED CLEAR TO THE GROUND.
EVEN IF MOST OF THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON’T HAVE PROTECTION, THEY WILL STILL BEGIN TO BUD OUT. AND DEPENDING WHERE YOU LIVE, IN CHARLESTON, THAT AREA, THEY ARE BEGINNING TO SEND UP NEW GROWTH AT THE GROUND.
SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS JUST CUT IT OFF FLUSH WITH THE GROUND OR JUST ABOVE WHERE YOU SEE IT BUDDING, AND IT WILL—MOST ALL OF THEM WILL GO AHEAD AND GROW, BUT OCCASIONALLY THEY DO DIE.
>>THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
QUITE A BIT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT FROST AND DIEBACK.
THIS IS THE YEAR, LIKE THE ZONE SIX PLANTS ARE NOT GOING TO DO TOO WELL.
>>TWO YEARS BEFORE WE LUCKED OUT BECAUSE MILD.
>>ZONE SIX DIED FOR ME.
CYPRESS AND BURFORD HOLLY AND THOSE, DEAD.
>>REALLY CLOSE TO ZONE SIX, AND YOU ARE IN ZONE SIX.
>>25 YEARS, ONE OF THEM IS ABOVE MY HOUSE.
>>AND IT DIED.
>>YES.
>>SO THAT—
>>KIND OF GOING TO BE A LUCK OF THE DRAW.
>>I AM NOT PLANTING ANY TREES THAT ARE ZONE SIX ANY MORE!
(LAUGHING).
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE QUITE THE MICROCLIMATE.
>> YES.
>>I KNOW PEOPLE PLANTING BANANAS, AND COVER THEM WITH HIDEOUS, HIDEOUS COVERINGS AND PUT A HEATER, SPACE HEATER.
I SAY JUST FACE IT, YOU ARE ZONE FIVE.
MOVE ON!
>>THERE IS ONE BANANA.
>>EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE.
>>EXTREMELY HARDY, AND YOU CAN CUT THAT DOWN TO THE GROUND.
THIN LAYER OF DIRT ON IT, I DO, AND THEN PILE EITHER BALD CYPRESS LEAVES OR NEEDLES FROM PINES, AND IT WILL COME UP.  I THINK THAT ONE WILL COME UP.
HUGE CIRCLES.
>>WOW, MAYBE THERE IS HOPE FOR SOME OTHER THINGS.
WE WILL GO TO OUR NEXT ROUND OF E-MAILS, OR SHOW AND TELL.
JOHN, LET’S GO TO YOU.
>>OKAY, I HAD A QUESTION ON WILD MILK WEED WHICH I HAVE GROWN IN MY YARD FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, DOES LIKE TO SPREAD UNDERGROUND.
SO THE QUESTION WAS LAST YEAR I HARVESTED SEEDS FROM WILD MILK WEED TO ATTRACT MONARCH BUTTERFLIES.
THEY WILL EAT 20 LEAVES ON AND AVERAGE BEFORE THEY CHRYSALIS AND TURN INTO BUTTERFLIES.
YOU NEED QUITE A FEW PLANTS.  WHEN DO I PLANT THE SEEDS?
HOW DEEP AND ANY OTHER CULTURE SUGGESTIONS?
PLANT THEM ONE EIGHTH BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE GROUND.
YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP THEM AT—AND IF YOU—I WOULD SUGGEST YOU DO IT INSIDE BECAUSE THEY—THE SEEDS WHICH I DO HAVE SOME, GERMINATE WHEN THEY ARE ABOUT 70 DEGREES.
THIS IS WHAT THE MILK PODS LOOK LIKE, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE AFTER THE SEEDS ARE GONE.
YOU NEED TO KEEP THEM INSIDE FOR AWHILE UNTIL THEY GET ABOUT TWO OR THREE SETS OF LEAVES.
PINCH THEM OFF.
IT IS GOING TO BRANCH SO THAT YOU GET MULTIPLE BRANCHES.
THEY DO HAVE A LONG TAPROOT.
SO PUT THEM IN A LARGER CONTAINER, AND THEN GET THEM OUT AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
APHIDS AND SPIDER MITES ARE A PROBLEM.
SAFETY TIPS, THEY DO HAVE A MILKY SAP WHICH IS WHY THE MONARCHS LIKE THEM BECAUSE IT IS VERY BITTER.
IF THE BIRDS TRY TO ATTACK THE MONARCH BUTTERFLY, IN EXPERIENCE, THEY WILL CHEW DOWN ON ONE, THEY SPIT IT OUT AND NEVER GO BACK.
SOME OF THE OTHER BUTTERFLIES, THEY—BIRDS USUALLY WON’T ATTACK IT.
IF YOU GET ANY OF THAT SAP ON.
IT IS LIKE POINSETTIAS, SOME OF THE OTHER MILKY SUBSTANCES, SOME PEOPLE ARE ALLERGIC.
WASH IT OFF RIGHT AWAY AND DRY IT AND YOU SHOULD BE GOOD.
THEY HAD A REALLY ROUGH WINTER IN MEXICO, THE MONARCHS THIS YEAR.
SO WE ARE NOT SURE HOW MANY WE ARE GOING TO SEE THIS YEAR.
KANSAS CITY HAS A WONDERFUL SITE I HAVE BEEN ON MONARCH WATCH, AND EVERY TIME I CAN CATCH THEM AND PUT A LITTLE PEG ON THEM AND SEND THEM ON THEIR WAY.
SOMEBODY ELSE FINDS THEM, WE KNOW THE ROUTE AND IN MEXICO.  SO WE PLANTED MILK WEEDS WHEREVER THEY ARE—KANSAS CITY, THE UNIVERSITY, HAS A VERY GOOD WEB SITE WHICH HAS MORE INFORMATION ON IT.
>>THANK YOU, JOHN.
THAT WAS GREAT.
LET’S MOVE ON TO YOU, LARRY.
>>WE HAVE A VIEWER WHO WANTS TO KNOW IF THERE IS PARTICULAR EVERGREEN THAT IS TWO TO THREE FOOT TALL, AND I PRESUME NO MORE THAN MAYBE TWO FEET WIDE, TO PLANT ALONG A SIDEWALK.
THE PROBLEM IS HE IS TRYING TO WORK AROUND IS THE DOGS THAT SOMETIMES DO THEIR BUSINESS ON EVERGREEN TREES.
HE WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS A VARIETY THAT THEY WOULDN’T DAMAGE AND SHOW BROWN.
THERE REALLY ISN’T.
ALL SHRUBS, WHETHER THEY ARE DECIDUOUS OR EVERGREENS, THEY CANNOT TAKE A DOG WETTING ON THEM.
SO YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO CUT THOSE AREAS OUT WHEN THEY OCCUR AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN MAYBE TIE SOME BRANCHES TO GO IF IT IS TOO MANY BRANCHES DEAD IN THE SECTION.
OTHERWISE, THERE ARE MINIATURES IN SO MANY DIFFERENT EVERGREENS BE AND YOU CAN JUST ASK THE VARIOUS NURSERIES OR IF YOU GET CATALOGS, THEY OFTEN HAVE THE MORE MINIATURE TYPES THAT YOU CAN PUT ALONG THE SIDEWALKS.
BUT THERE IS STILL NOTHING—YOU CAN’T FIND A VARIETY, I WILL PUT IT THAT WAY, THAT IS DOG-PROOF IN THAT RESPECT.
>>UH-HUH.
OKAY.
THANK YOU, LARRY.
WE GO BACK TO JIM AND WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SOIL TEMPERATURES.
SINCE WE GOT YOU HERE!
(LAUGHING)
>>OKAY.
IT IS CRITICAL ESPECIALLY FOR GERMINATION OF SEED BECAUSE YOU DON’T WANT TO PUT SEED IN THE GROUND AND LET IT SIT THERE WHEN IT IS TOO COLD AND LET IT ROT.
WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IS WAIT UNTIL THE SOIL IS WARM ENOUGH FOR IT TO ACTUALLY GERMINATE.
MOST OF THE COLD SEASON VARIETIES OF VEGETABLES, IT IS ABOUT 50 DEGREES OR SO.
>>YEAH!
>>THE WARMER VARIETIES, WE ARE 50 DEGREES RIGHT NOW.
WARMER VARIETIES, 60 DEGREES, AND SOME THINGS LIKE EVEN WARMER.
SO THINGS LIKE TOMATOES AND THINGS, ABOUT LIKE 60 DEGREES.  WE ARE RIGHT ON THE CUSP OF STARTING THE GERMINATION SEASON.
I THINK WE WILL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
>>I HAVE PEAS THAT ARE GERMINATED.
>>THAT’S TRUE OF BULBS TOO.
CALADIUMS AND ELEPHANT EARS, THE SOIL TEMPERATURES NEEDS TO BE 70 DEGREES FOR THOSE TWO.
>>I AM NOT SURPRISED AT ALL.
SO DON’T RUSH.
DON’T RUSH INTO THINGS EXCEPT PEAS, POTATOES, KOHLRABI.
CABBAGES, LETTUCE, SPINACH, RADISH.
>> WE DON’T PLANT BRUSSEL SPROUTS UNTIL LATER.
>>THAT’S CORRECT.
>>THEY LIKE THE COOL NOW.
>>WHEN THEY ARE FORMING, THEY SPROUT.
>>THEY TASTE BETTER.
WITH THE BULBS IF YOU START IN A POT INSIDE, IT IS OKAY TO PUT THEM OUTSIDE.
IF IT IS REALLY WET AND MOIST, AND THE TEMPERATURES BELOW 70, THEY ROT INSTEAD OF GROW.
>>DON’T DO THAT.
SPEAKING OF BULBS, WE WILL GO TO ONE KIND OF LIKE A BULB.
WE WANT TO GO TO OUR MAG QUESTION ABOUT CORM.
CROCUS ARE MY FAVORITE CORM.
I THINK THEY ARE CORMS.
I THINK THAT’S CORRECT.
>>CALLUS.
RED, IF YOU PLANT IT DEEP ENOUGH IN THE GROUND.
>>HOW DEEP DO YOU PLANT IT?
>> DEPENDS WHERE YOU PLANT IT PROBABLY.
>>START WITH A BASE OR SOMETHING.
>>COUPLE INCHES.
>>YES.
AND MULCH IT AND THEY COME UP!
HARDIER THAN THE GREEN ONE.
>>I BELIEVE THAT.
THAT’S REALLY PRETTY.
WE WANT TO GO TO LINE FIVE NEXT, AND IT IS ABOUT A RASPBERRY AND THIS IS GREG’S QUESTION.  HI THERE, GREG.
>>CALLER: HI, LAST SEASON THE RASPBERRIES, SECOND FLUSH, SECOND CROP, WE HAD THIS LITTLE WHITE WORM THAT WAS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A HAIR.
IT WAS REALLY HARD TO IDENTIFY.
IF YOU WOULD HAVE PICKED IT UP OFF THE SHRUB AND ATE IT, YOU WOULDN’T HAVE KNOWN IT.
WHEN WE WERE CLEANING IT OUT, WE SAW IT IN THERE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND DO YOU KNOW HOW WE CAN TREAT IT TO REMAIN EDIBLE?
WE DIDN’T HAVE IT IN THE FIRST CROP, FIRST FLUSH, BUT THE LATER ONES, SEEMED LIKE ALL OVER.
I WAS LOOKING AT JOHN, AND JOHN IS LOOKING AT ME.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT WAS.
I HAVE NEVER RAN INTO THAT.
I DON’T KNOW IT THAT’S—
>>I DON’T HAVE IT ON MINE.
>>I DIDN’T HAVE THEM ON MINE.  MIGHT HAVE BEEN JUST A SEASONAL.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE AREA THAT HAD CATERPILLARS ON THEM?
>> NO.
>>CALLER: NO, A HAIR-LIKE WORM WITHIN THE DIFFERENT—YOU KNOW HOW THE FLESH ON THOSE IS LITTLE INDIVIDUAL PIECES, ALMOST LIKE IN BETWEEN THEM, WHEN YOU OPENED THE RASPBERRY UP INSIDE.
>>WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP AND FIND OUT.
>>THAT’S NOT ONE WE CAN GUESS ON.
I HADN’T NOTICED.
I DID GET A SECOND FLUSH ON MY RASPBERRIES.
>>YEAH, ME, TOO.
>>SOMETHING IS PROBABLY LAYING AN EGG IN THERE.
>>IT COULD BE REGIONAL, TOO.
>> RIGHT.
>>WE WILL HAVE—WHEN WE HAVE AN ENTOMOLOGIST ON, WE WILL DEFINITELY ASK THEM AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL KNOW.
>>THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW ABOUT THAT.
WOW, THE SHOW CERTAINLY GOES FAST.
THANK YOU FOR BEING ON.
AND THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
THERE IS SO MUCH TO DO.
WE HOPE THAT YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEK GARDENING.
SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
BYE-BYE.

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