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you can place your characters wherever you want glamorous city of danger

dangerous wilderness lost at sea on the moon placement

greatest works places best for first time novelist Ryan Bart

Barton places Peoria especially small town nearby

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given the name of the book on winter going to

mg metals and then f*** is Ryan talks about writing his first number

characters impulses travel with in house central Illinois

what part of food they are writer Ryan Park open today

program to do after the news

good morning I’m Jim meadows in this is focus in wyll you listening to anime

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encore broadcast of a previous focus program why were not taking calls

this or you can join a conversation on Facebook and Twitter at focus 5

580 Middleville is a little town in central Illinois

you’ve never been to because it doesn’t exist but you may have been to other towns

that could be Melville could be home to the wall Beazer brothers chicken

chicken buddy and their respective families Ryan bar to make grew up in one of those

does towns and he made central Illinois the setting of his debut novel on

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onward toward what we’re going toward published a few months back my EGR publishing

now feel like to be part of our conversation with Ryan Bader made a day you can email acid

it will dash talk at Illinois dot edu also welcome your questions on

Amazon Facebook and Twitter at focus 580 Ryan Bartimaeus on the phone with

fun with us from Chicago where he is the Dean of general education and Kendall come

do college Orion welcome to focus Happy New Year 2014 glad to have you

have you and I’m wondering Ryan first about the title on word toward what we’re going toward what is that

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what is a title come from well um yeah I like that that thing song HRO

the title at what I was trying to title that actually the original

original title of the book wise chick Evans chick wallpaper with chicken

early draft a chick Evans in his own way and I like

I like this guy 105 title but as I continue to to work on

work on the book um when I got to the point where a chick started reading poetry

tree sap off of haikus that appear at the end

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in the novel um that was called on we’re going

just like sing song plays on the soffit set up the town

the tone of the book I want to be playful I want to know that was a little play for

playful going in rifle so there was a time

what I do, you came up with as you were as you were writing a check will be Ceres portrait

poetry yes that’s correct okay just came to you in that way and I have to admit I was real

reading cinemas Baldwin some of this effort to be red eyes

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it could happen anywhere in the country but I did the live for several years in the PR

the Peoria area and um I remember people trying to write poetry

3 all along those lines okay poetry that was really are technically

Glee quite bad but what is credible ease painful

painfully heartfelt right yeah yeah hot chicks poetry is heartfelt is bad

that’s true what I was trying to do with that is

an actual aware of writing poetry in central Illinois

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when I was I started writing it when I was in New York in 2003

3 hour diet for 10 years actually I have a first 50

Sears York and Chicago

another 5 years um so yeah twins

address for the the the poetry I want to use that as a vehicle Tom Ford

for his dealing with the pain of a ton

IMAX I just fell FL price

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hot to me um something that he discovered

what happens that actually when he was that uh uh library down

down his feelings in a library in point out to him that what he just written could be

bi2 and then he spends the next I 30 years

as ridin high

the terrace something playful little funny

funny about that what was one of the things I was trying to do with the f***

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um I was trying to get at real human emotion

does also trying to get out funny I feel real

cyride ass to be to be in a tanning bed

when writing that important aspect of writing a short

short story or whatever is test center humoron

playfulness is is this is just there to entertain

no I check won’t be there I guess it really is the main character of the novel

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what so much of the book is not just about him about his brother buddy and their wives

wives and families and and and and and also a and also Marriott Norwood

Norwood who comes into the story umm we’ll really on in the novel b***

what chronologically was quite a few years later uruz spread the other the hole

the whole action of the chorus about half a century write a rule Ryan how to store a

develop for you did you see the scope of it when you first started working on it or is it

send something that developed over time well um I guess I didn’t want to write a novel

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I’m not with something out that I would willfully trying to do um

how many first novel to wire subject matter

if it clear first person novels contemporary novels

what might have written

the first person novels um a lot of them have to do with age

a weekend so I was

why was willfully trying to do something large I want to do you like a very ambitious

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xScope novel characters

what I have to wear to slam that in 200 pages of the first come first

the first draft first couple draft the first five years really as I thought I was riding

riding a really short big scope of Allah

um and I really try to make that work under the influence

Barry Hannah paper writer of mine is novel read a witch

covers lot of time in is really short fast 5 years trying to do

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before I realized I already been written and it was written by Barry

Hanna Andersson a way I could write that f*** so good I stumbled into the

the consciousness I’m part of the book where am I now

I’m out of the different characters consciousness chicken body

are there wives Ali G what is life

wife ass Dian chicks wife and then Mary Norwood

wood at her husband green Geneseo

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I really really want to get a haircut chestnut and try to understand his character

characters om one reason I want to do this is because this is not my strength

princess as a writer what comes with riders dialogue in scene

what does not coming writing a character consciousness

add 5 years trying to teach myself how to inhabit that the conscious

consciousness of the character that really built a novel around that’s really work wear

where is larger and got bigger than a bit more ambitious synonym

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which is actually really got a lot

a lot of fun for me at right the first couple years doing now

teaching myself struggle but after I turn a corner

corner lot of fun what was interesting the idea of a big knot

big novel I was reading publisher Robert last publishing calls your name

does your novel of Midwestern 100 Years of Solitude overstatement

will realize we get down to it there are only six main characters

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actors Wright brothers there’s there’s a Bears on this is chicken done

Dian there’s buddy and is it leegit is the correct how do you pronounce a

yeah BGN actually it’s interesting because she’s an Indian American character

character add a name is legion I had a student

students of a while back when I was riding the novel American

the time I was trying to come up with um at her name

name and I just name turvy G American

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woman who is that name just out

Nayeli thinking maybe a common Indian name as it turns out after

novels publication I was talking to a friend of mine

American woman at the name the characters

look at me like I never heard before

alot when I ride a nite rider I know right right

right right pick up the pieces later I realized

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all the states that I have a nice life as a rider

make all of this stuff off and I have to go back in an incorrect things I didn’t

I didn’t change that because of that point that character of Miami

Willie G’s a very

pivotal character in the novel she’s married to buddy

but I see is someone that chick is attracted to when there’s a God

there’s a will there’s a very crucial backrub given very early

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early in the novel with striped so many more vents after that it’s cracked death

yeah she she was the kind of the catalyst

best for wet what happened at writing desk jump

jumpstart a lot of like a domino effect on mouse pad

fatback Rob that she give check on his

wedding night early in the box first temple of pages in the box

what kind of cement what happened between

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brothers family

on what you do to me

reading after reading the novel it seems that I’ll be so very

Gary Owen pulse of an lonely characters are in pulse of the only seem to be doing something

something to think I’ll make a real difference usually without much information to go on

Miley and lonely because none of them seem to have anybody to

define in Medina Mike give him a sounding board on whether or not they were doing the right thing

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write you see these characters I do ya Messi the characters of all of them

all of them are are are lonely I take all of them are are driving to make a connection

and oftentimes I weigh that ass

aspiration connect to fast as a

perverted a sexual fantasy

um and I think what you mentioned in terms of i know it

impulsive I think that I think that’s correct I think they all have a desire to

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do good to do the right thing but they jump at the

what the first thing that comes into their mind like chicken has fallen tree for Apple ID

the library drop something down and library

2 ne spend the next 30 years

years trying to write a haiku wholesome way to call about being a cop

how it um and to deal with your emotions

accurate

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what is focus mg Meadows talking with rider Ryan Barton

Bartimaeus debut novel onward toward what we’re going toward is out from

from publishing if you have a question for Brian R phone number is 1 800

2229 455 email your question to will dance

dash Tonkin Illinois edu phone number again 1 800 222

222 wyll and you can also I send a message on Twitter and Facebook

look at focus 580 now that I’ve a loose sentence

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in central Illinois in a town called Middleville with a pumpkin

pumpkin Camry and you yourself come from what temp for Morton

Morton Morton Illinois which is the capital of the world what’s up what’s up with a large Libby’s

Nestle’s um um pumpkin cannery it’s about 10

why don’t know about the 10 15 miles of the West east of pizza peel

Peoria cross the river is Right crack and so I’m wondering Middleville

you know we could be more could be a lot of small towns in Tazewell County was the idea

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Church Middle Village imagine is a

is that is a fictitious town in early draft I II name

name of town Centralia south

and I like the name Centralia I’m at Joe Satriani

Ryder um and I now

Joe Centralia and then I built up Centralia with all of the eye

Morton landmarks basically a pumpkin counter Rihanna Main Street with

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with out with 6 which is the department store that was important Stafford

a family of grocery store that was in Morton IL

clothes with six sense close and then when you know what I sold

sold the book 2 gig I made that change changed from Centralia to

20 pound kettlebell live it up that

Batman because I asked I worry that someone from Southern Illinois from central

baby yourself would read a novel and say what is not a fan of a pumpkin can

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can cats with 6 that was there so I got a little nervous

fictionalized at why do recognize a lot of names in the cannery in Wichita

what six remember San Francisco accident on over the area when I was okay

ok in Peoria certified Gary bass convenience store chain price

alot of other names for Peoria Rivermen the paradise casino the other one world

coffee houses are all anybody in Peoria Illinois does places right that’s correct

is using actual and Mark part of the second star to the book when I was

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Park Ave I graduate school

what time at a little homesick for birth control

Illinois Central remember if your fat

central Illinois 1993 to go to college

College undergrad University of Iowa Iowa City can I live

after graduating college town in Austin Texas for couples

couple years in Boston for New Years in New York

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reading stories  about a small town

Illinois more lasses trying to understand I think

where where I came from what about Illinois

how do I do the landmarks II and I know what I know the details

tales from Portland to know the details when your trying to create something to an error

narrative in artificial narrative with the word that is doing research

stuff to my imagination TaxACT

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that’s the reason why I said it there I didn’t

I didn’t I didn’t a chance to go online from your website a night should know you do for website

Ryan Bartel Maine dot com.com is incorrect

and I will make sure to get a link on a little later on our website will.

Illinois edu slash Focus hybrid Aldis flatness which I believe

you set in Deer Creek on the Mackinac Bridge right yeah that’s true and Mackinaw

also flows through your fictional Middleville is well it does Jack Mack on River Road in Portland

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River to me growing up by I use to can you with my dad

is France and Mackinaw River we had a app that had friends

friends have I got a deer hunting cabin on the Mackinac Bridge Mackinac

over the river so I spend alot of time around Mackinac bratty kid

River cabins

app that has a portent part of my childhood side does show up

quite a bit set when we have a cooler in and out we have to

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we have to take a gentleman because he’s calling for Morton and dumb

online Foretrex for morning good morning urine focus  morning

good morning  I just want to know if Ryan

is trying to put tray on the Dark Side of the people’s

personalities um are the dark side of

does the Falling Man RR a human bean does the novel seems to be

somewhat dark throughout everybody striving to get somewhere

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and that’s my question

sure that’s some think that was intense

intentional that I ave what in the penis darkest what is bad

at the characters of struggling is much is struggling 5

think again in one of the things that drive me as it as a rider

Ryder um to to write is it to try to understand something

why don’t I go into a book RR short story

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trying to understand I will try to understand people

Illinois um and then what comes out

the darkness or whatever I buy product of fat

certainly that something that act that came out of the box

f***  orexin thank you very much for your

search for your call you know I’m just just for my 2 cents I got the idea

reading this book this is a book in which no one seems to get clay

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quite what they want but they sure are trying hard is it

is is is is is is is that accurate a thing Ryan yeah absolutely

might be a mom

you can really teach a worldview in NM this is part of my my world

world you think that um I think that’s honest I think a lot of people driving

driving test note to search your life and I don’t always end up doing

what they want to do all does a try and I think there’s something really

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beautiful about the trying to struggle something Universal Rawlings age

working on that I think maybe part of the darkness

what is is the honesty that we do fail and a lot of people

people fail a lot of people don’t get what they say set out to do a hot flash

do you think that’s going to be on is is an ongoing semen you’re working your shorts

short stories in the Bible so far or do you want to write about people who are you

who are able to be on the market tomorrow  um so far

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farting a lot of it has been what were talking about

actually on my wife out of my work cheats to make a comet

sometimes I stare at your work is so fat

sad person I’m not a fat person have a lot to be to work at you

beautiful daughters 13 2 month old wonderful wife

wife what is just um it just happens that you know the way that I see you

the struggle of humanity I guess is that

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lotto a lot of striving um and not quite Grafton

after not quite getting what what you may want out of life

now I suppose and I don’t know if this was on something or call it was was wondering about

is if I ain depicting these people as as as

really 20 on the dark sides and their lack of success in offense going wrong

you are making a comment about a bad people in central Illinois people in

Ellen Morton where were you grew up or just about people in general

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people in general um I’m not in my ass

why it is that supposed to be a parent as a trail

all of the people in central Illinois don’t see all of the people

you don’t want to end up like Michael Ealy mastersons name is mud

is hometown because of the Spoon River anthology right right job that way

you know that yeah yeah that that’s not my attempt

alot of its just me trying to understand

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the human condition that ends in trouble and you know what that means nice asses

set this book in central Illinois because I know the details I know that that’s easy to say

riders bag accessory there at work

work places because they say in the area Faulkner

North Mississippi Hemingway and I

Academy stories that are all in the Michigan area

area riders do if dead help

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easier now ah terms of the Internet

look up a lot of the tails in Everett ruined in an increase

increase the artifice off of artifice and create

the world just buy a cherry picking details of Internet

do a little bit of this that and the f*** with a Las Vegas to LA

Las Vegas wife about Las Vegas

street name stripper dick in Las Vegas

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internet in with the Google Maps you can figure out street name

names located in UK I ll make it you’ll like

like Las Vegas are the writers for from Las Vegas

work

like I said I did do that b***

Air and you know I’m something something king

there are the physical that there is there are the physical places you could you

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what you could I draw the names of any particular place NC mention about writing about Las

Las Vegas going to the internet you close your eyes and think that your hometown does

does it evolve a certain feeling a certain atmosphere to you and can you describe

scribe that  yeah I mean um

certainly dies ah the feeling that I am about

is it I have

have for a small town um I was after another

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interview at app review talking about how I have to

1119 of the dying of the town that was intentional

but it possible that part of artifice mean

small town anymore I live in Chicago different bed

everytime I go down on my parents to live there

I go down to central Illinois frequently in the end

feel the contract I’m so maybe part of it was the

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I’ll be leaving small town

how that part of me is gone and I don’t have

I don’t have a desire porn

maybe it’s my own coming of age well that I was working out

what were talking with Ryan Bartimaeus the author of onward toward what word

what were going toward his first novel have from a publishing what’s the short break and women

when we come back alright if you got a copy of your book with you you could you could read your text

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Amedisys focus on wyll

my back with focus on wyll AM 580 im Jim meadows

does listening to an encore edition of focus when not taking life own call

this hour but we welcome your feedback on our website at will.illinois.edu

edu slash focused right now we’re talking with Ryan Bartimaeus first novel

onward toward what we’re going toward came out a few months back from egg publishing

follows the lives of the wall beezers chicken Diane buddy and Lisa G

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as they try to find some sort of happiness in small towns in Illinois with cational for raise

into Peoria and Ryan if you have an excerpt

ready for the book if you want to set us up urine what’s going on church so

um I’m going to read a short actor Pierre takes place in eyes

1998 Saab the books band 50 year

years and one of the story lines is chic wall be there at aerie chat

Janet yo add those to have a romantic relationship

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for about 2 months with a flirt with um I going to Florida

how to run away to Florida where to check if I had his honeymoon

is wife Elvis’s from June 16 1998

fried chicken Mary at just me just mass

ad Mary is going to take a check from the paradise

paradise riverboat casino to ob to a bar that she’s been high

black ass

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very sad side chick in a minivan bag

back slap she didn’t know anything about have accepted he was interested in her or she

thought he was interested in her she can be sure she was losing losing her touch

used to be able to get a man’s attention to the Cowboys the brazen bull with Internet

can i order down to this guy

if you didn’t seem like you should told her that have to be there

is there for company after the third time Chicago to nursing home corrected her

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technically assisted living facility he said with a smirk

assistance living like he was making a joke but she wasn’t sure she got a joke

it mean that you need help going to the bathroom and stuff like that she asked them

Anne said that’s not what u mass she waited for the punchline but never came

instead of her like she was supposed to say something but she didn’t say anything

can I smell in the van musty and sweaty and Mary new iMac coming from

check or could be Greensboro suits with which were in the laundry bag behind

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baby Sun Hat bake them to crack the window whisper voice

voice winner had told her that this was a bad idea was in the hospital and she was in a minute

van with a bad could be the reason actually probably was the reason for the old

the old man smell chicken smile ready

where is Oliver be sad very turned on the ignition the radio rock 103

106 Peoria classic rock station lasted heart Barracuda from the speaker

speakers she love this song remember the time when she thought of herself as a barracuda

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chi class in a rear view mirror install retirement home by your back out of a parking spot

carefully before she could halfway out she had to stop letting people walking

6th grade class cross behind her a white hair lady

lady with Walker made eye contact with her while bald guy in flannel shirt

wrist watch with very thought of green hospital is ham

hand last night’s NFL phony long fingers with pencil

she had what happened to the human body over time you need to get back to the hospital

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voice that we doing with this guy chicks with fat chicks

down in the back and chest don’t say anything there’s more

Morris don’t move guy wearing a members only when you’re alive

looking around concern right left over her shoulder chick with scratch so far down

is practically on the floor supposed to be on a pot Jesus Christ

price the new low she was kidnapped in an old man

is assisted living residents allowed way back

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you asked him did you ask him to come with you

greed likes you use with a light, or think you could like him

I’m driving back to we care accept from a substitution

in Middleville  and that’s a neck

xnxn from onward toward what we’re going toward read by the author

Ryan bartlomiej Mary Geneseo is who I called Mary

Mary Norwood corset was her maiden name Marley stir on her previous their previous

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previous name for any previous marriages shemale pad ob I was

strokos without Mary’s character who is

set by voice is essentially the voices of the two sides of her conscience

chance the loudest voice in the whispering voice right and dumb

that was that was really a character worry hurts the most interior

dialogue long because of you because of the loud voice the whispering voice

voice are always arguing over what she should do right yeah I was really

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who is really with that I was really interested in the conflict of these two voices in Turbo

pulling her ass in two different directions to whether or not

give into this and Paul talking about character in a bowl

earlier what are the importance of going to

Florida with check in check out Florida which you want to go to

op 40 chasing down his past in E

Florida second chance with Mary

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yo a** write his

is is life is life is passed away

and then the other voices for telling her that

fat that she can’t do that anymore spend her entire life doing that married

8910 time numerous times too many times to relieve a cow

count account man in her life

Hakeem from a man to man to man to man

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other another time worksheets that important to do it yet again

telling her that you can’t stop doing that

play that out in her

consciousness trying to get that alot of

lot of us thinking that way I know that I’ve automat way for

I have to go to voice is in your head

opposite direction  are you on your characters

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how tall like specific people you’ve known are are are you drunk

drawing from a whole lot of people in constructing a drive from a lot of people

the book a kind of started when I started writing at

like I said lack like in New York um I was thinking about

about eyes this man his name was I check advance

at night I use to clean wool country

Airport how much is a small local 41 Morton Tom and eyes to swell

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swim at with friends when I was 10 11 12 years old in Houston

how to clean a pool in at the time he was a retired ad

I was always really interested in his name he was around the community a lot

lots basketball high school basketball game running

high school talk to him about sport and then

name chick Evans with the name so I started writing this story eyes

IAAI I just have to use the name and started venting

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a life for his name has nothing to do with chicken

person in Wharton but I really like the name in MA

eventually change the name to check wall to wall theater is a family name of mine

myNet gay chicken

that last check chicken no I don’t

anything on bike 141 characters

tell me how long does it take you to write the book

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workout for 10 years 10 years of pretty regularly are offset on um

pretty regular I mean I would stop to work out the projects

you mentioned earlier that you read this story I’m Office flat ass

fat ass house work on the Parkside I would take breaks and I

short story come back to its my processor

process as a writer s how to write a draft

draft and then I will bring it out reaDit

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note that I have literally kind of um

set the next to me and I retake the whole thing Paige Wyatt

white page by page um banana tempura inhabited

the novel the characters the Texas

a long time to do that are you re writing as you re type yes

absolutely gas on large things I’m drinking bag

Hanjin what are some of the biggest changes

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changes you made over 100 over your multiple drafts

what is consciousness for one that was kind of the biggest when we spoke about that

that earlier jacket consciousness that really hot enlarged

the characters Mary Geneseo is consciousness

the the whisper voicemail loud voice audition

Deshun that baby K minutes 607 like that

that um so these things that I’ve that would a tangent that I follow

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Maryland baby I can I can enlarge her consciousness by

Best Buy having two different voices that she. In her consciousness

that would be one really major difference

this of course was the first novel you had attempted um

who was the running process by itself just trying to put together a novel

finally found a spot I mean I can cook with it for

so yeah I end a lot of it was just know

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teaching myself how to how to write a novel

um at that that that that

overcoming um I might go to

if it’s difficult what to write

bad overcoming up my own voices in my head

talking about why you trying to do this

caricature trying to write a love boys in Westbury Voice yourself

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guided yeah early when you’re when you’re when you’re writing your

kind of a in overcoming the voices in your head that are telling you

why is it that at this

why was St Paul of the temptations if you’re going to spend 10 years

should know you were in graduate school during a lot of this time in your studies

creative writing so you said they had some impotence to right right

um but it would just be so easy to give up yeah absolutely

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I mean it is it is it is it is it is easy to give up but

message to something um  what I’m really interested in writing is the discipline

the point of it going to everyday I am working for an hour

hour by hour and a half to hours whatever whatever it is

something that is  started

meditative um to do that and that’s really was important

the the publishing and Happiness

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that’s a by product in math that’s great in it

define and I like talking to you about the f******

reviews Sol a sol byproduct of the real work

the day today struggle of trying to rise

trying to understand things about yourself and

humanity condition I’m not really what it’s about I mean um

there their and I hope you continue to write on

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novels because that’s really wear Elvis really work

fastest working at my work on another f****** baby to take another test

baby won’t get published what the actual active writing and doing it

going to the basketry day inhabited that at

space I think that that that they can be a better person

better father import

well that’s interesting I think that’s the first time I’ve heard somebody talk about the actor

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act of writing as being worthy worthy in itself

rather than just the means towards the end I think I’m for lots of riders

who are glad to a produced books but but then the necessary

enjoy the process of doing so mean enjoys interest

interesting words like the right words right Inc

um I think it’s just the way I had to engage in an app

processing mean let’s face it I don’t make em i dont make a living

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the writer you know I’m not yet anyway to not a lot of money to be made as a right

the writer um in the pressure to do to make a living out where would have to be

would be so I meant to live on your craft of the refrigerator

writer that I’m not sure I could handle that what would I can’t handle it

is is is is doing doing this no. And trying times

understand myself and condition like I said I’m going to it

send using it as a form of meditation to form of a triangle

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better person really that’s that’s what’s interesting

that’s what I win when does the voice start talking in my head as I’m working

working on PC action pretty dark times

because I sleep affirmations to publish

what you’re doing its not very good at work red eye mean I have to remind myself

myself if that’s not the point no point isn’t that isn’t

is in the results of the Labour the points is a labor and doing work

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work well we are talking with a Ryan bottle made of

who’s on first novel on we’re toward what we’re going toward your on focus

Jim Meadows still time for your questions for Ryan at 1 800 222 945

455 email acid will dash talk at Illinois .edu

phone number again 1 800 222 wyll Bryan

what you just said about being a writer being one who writes in the act

the Act writing being valuable itself for hamsters in contrast to what you have a chicken

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logic won’t be doing who was once he discovers that some of his

really sad thoughts can be fashion in a haiku

decides to be a poet which means for him growing up scraggly little beer

beard and and and and and wearing a beret this is all part of being a poet

what is Mars is Farsi is concerned yeah baby I’m part

I’m part of that is why I was working out my myself what is this

what does it mean to be a writer does it mean to be a writer’s how many appearances

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and you know it in the novel that mad fat guy

gross French beard Witches of a little bit of hair on anything

where to buy red corduroy blazer in the book part of a poet

guess what I was saying there to myself

that’s not what writers out about trying

what is out and in what you did

who did finish a book and you also got it published with eg publishing which of

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from what I’ve looked at it sounds like an interesting publishing house in itself if you can tell me anything about it

sure yeah egg is a a small independent press

craft and um in Brooklyn New York at about handbook

your mom have 4500 literary fiction

directions to have a nonfiction book well

husband and wife team who are the editors ass

I met them in 2009 at

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AWP which is a

writing conferences with it  different cities

Chicago 2009 my friend Davey D

I wrote a question short stories of captive audience in a crate

story egg and he wasn’t like

2009 Robert F ass

short stories is well I said to them in 2000

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had they didn’t take fat collection short stories short stories

what year after that I got an email 2011

from Elizabeth I edecan she have

thinking about your writing and I was wondering if you ever finish that novel that you are

what you were working on iphone write a novel

Hermy short stories and I haven’t finished it

um I was working on the last draft the time but I told her when I finish that I want

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Dover to her dad I am

and I’m wondering what surf reaction has this book on back

in your hometown of Martin  um from from the people who died for free

Earth from its got a pretty good reaction to reading air

early on in September AdvoCare

best ass I am

people there 7500 people that’s pretty good ground for reading

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Peoria Area reading for theres like 6 17

74 there in a thing was it you know that is a

small town small town new every one that was there

girlfriends of my family and friends parents my parents and friends of mine

miles from high school overwhelming mean

published I know I’ve been away from work for for a long time

time I think some people may have known that I was aspiring to be a cop a ride

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rider high was kind of out of my forehead

my first attempt to f***

why did I have 11 gentlemen I came up to me I am

when I grow up with his kids he’s my parents age Tom and ass

find a Ruger art Garden City

is that I used to name the family garden at the SSID character in the park

Nicki Minaj beez in the first book

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f*** first novel that I’ve Radford High School witches

best flattery thats that he was in Spanish time pottery

not a reader Adventist I’m reading a novel

heard that kind of

people that it’s like watching a movie

down for an hour and a half and watch and watch it fall

it takes a number of hours in the f*** is fornication

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pages so that sounds like it was a girl

really positive experience for what is after all a book about very unhappy

unhappy people living in your hometown yeah um all the way I should say

saying I think you eat you said you use trove put it in there but it is funny

it is funny a lot of the time and I wasn’t I wasn’t sorry to be spending time with these people but they’re so

there’s so unhappy right right yeah um like I said they are

they are unhappy but through the humor in a bucket is funny ass n t***

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how to freestyle eyes that I log into care

characters elements of flapjack I think in the box

and like I said I do I do have a desire

um I don’t think I can force myself from my world you

but I can balance it out with trying to make it entertaining

characters who are struggling happy

O’Ryan Bartman want to thank you for writing on we’re Georgia

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what we’re going towards thank you for coming on focus to talk about it do you have a second

second novel in the works I don’t right now why are you plan to work

work on something my wife and I just had our second daughter regulation

relation to take you to months ago so I am and I’m your waist Ethan

father right now tell if I wore number material

serial being created right as we speak exactly yeah absolutely

absolutely but gets it to 129 looking forward

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