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Illinois

maybe doing something right in managing its deer population for chronic wasting disease

dizzy if you haven’t heard much about this disease deer elk

boost maybe one sign of the states success in controlling it spread

like mad cow disease chronic wasting disease spread by a protein

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not effective find someones facebook what happens red line stop

stop humans authorities still want to protect wild animal population

Jim Adams today in focus will talk to research in University of Illinois

Illinois campus chronic wasting disease why it’s important to keep from spreading

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program continues after the news

welcome to focus mg Meadows chronic wasting disease is scary

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scary even if its only found in deer elk and moose the diseases

is the result of a protein on a bacteria or virus in recent years

unfounded deer and other animals and 22 States into Canadian provinces

is it was first founded Illinois 11 years ago and since then department of

natural resources in the Illinois Department of Natural Resources has been calling

calling selected deer populations as a way to control the disease

has the calling works well our guests on focus today conductor the long terms

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term study to see if it did in the result a promising were talking to them

today about their studies findings Norma Terris is a wildlife veterinarian

Mary epidemiologist Illinois natural history survey on the University of Illinois

Illinois Urbana campus and Janet Nova Cup ski is the

animal sciences professor in the Department of Animal Sciences of the university network

work together on the study have you had experience with animals that could

could suffer from chronic wasting disease are you a hunter listen to do with additional rules and

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regulations to do chronic wasting disease deer like to hear what’s up

what your experiences are give us a call at 1 800 2229

29455 that’s toll free 1 800 222 wyll

and you can email I sent will dash talkin Illinois dot

.edu and I will for starters lets define what is chronic

chronic wasting disease what animals does it strike of lets first of all

how do you how do I describe a disease of the abyss Nature yes

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is the Hello gym XT first Wolitzer price of pleasure to be here

here comes the disease this is a disease that is transmitted by

buy Capri own protein is infectious protein very different from a

bacteria and virus in the sense that the a bacteria or virus can you sue

who is Legoland in Houston response in the immune response

spawns is something that allows us to come you suck diagnostic tool

tools for prion diseases because we don’t have the opportunity Alsina

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response we do have some challenges associated with the Diagnostics

test for temple and out that sounds something a little friend uglies coming for

coming from the outside in this is not spread by anything alive

therefore there is nothing that kills um is all the way I guess

if you could get rid of the get rid of the bad protein that would be the day that would be

that would be a solution SMS message actually correct protein

teens normally when you eat food you have you eat proteins and you digest Lowes in

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and to me lashes and use them to to build new proteins in your body

print proteins are very resistant to digestion are the Bayou or buy back

bacteria when are spread out to the environment so this particular

take your class of protein is Right persistent think alike your fingernails or hearing

miradrain nothing really much does it takes for a strong chemicals

ortex rose road conditions in fact that the same situation is prion protein

proteins it take strong chemicals to destroy this proteins different sexes

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it takes a long time for them to go away when during the environment and

how did these proteins harm in a Honda Deer so the proteins

the protein is this is an approaching a normally performs a biological

logical functions and causes Notice season in new damage the animals it’s actually a

Aaliyah are normal protein occasionally for reasons that we don’t understand

the protein fools in two different shape in the street then is very

is for hard to remove biologically order Breaking Dawn so its not easily

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digester turned over in the body the protein accumulates in simply by

by virtue of accumulating causes damage to the cells census is a protein

protein is present in the nervous system causes damage to the steps you and causes

symptoms receipt overtime it continues to build up cause more damage causes Morrison

are symptoms and how does it build up is replicated when cells divide for it is

it is so your cells are always synthesizing proteins some proteins faster than other

inprint proteins are just like that because it normally service a normal function

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function is being made all the time when we have these abnormally 4

the folded Prince present the actually cause other freon to change shape

and so we’re continue making normal ones that then change shape into this damage

damage causing structure now there are other diseases which are caused by

by Prince & A stand in other animals including the couple of diseases

that’s correct so the most

most in the news of course is mad cow disease and we’ve known for

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several decades now about mad cow disease which is a prion protein in kale

in cattle and four Peters time we didn’t understand how this was spread

and Europeans were feeling back mean bone meal with Lee had a rosary

large number of animals affected in Europe and the master control that over the past

the past decade number case is not very small simply by preventing

Lansing breaking up cycle of getting the infectious protein back to the animals

okay and umm the diseases that do exist in humans

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human version of mad cow disease in the stand brutal version

human version of mad cow disease is called a very in Crestview Jakub zzzz

Intel does human version of mad cow disease is basically a choir

from the consumption of infected Matt cold meat

so consuming a cattle infected with mad cow disease ok and

and I was a little confused a retard is there is at the only disease of apprentice

disease that affects humans is human drive very intimate encounter is there another

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another one is probably the only disease that we can consider that has been transmitted

taxi from animals embryo protein diseases be transmitted from animals

do humans but they are other call preowned protein diseases

Inhumans such a screw for examples of historical golf course

who wrote you are you can you are you yeah um so this is love

listen to this is a historical disease affect humans in his penis

associated with the consumption of all brain tissues from family members

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in New Guinea okay not something that every day around here hopefully not

k a question is something that was emailed over to us by our by Michael

Michael of course concerning um chronic wasting disease

is can it be transferred to humans especially since many people

hunt deer eat venison well so a couple things

first of all there is no there is no evidence supporting facts chronic wasting

zzzz can be transmitted to humans by the same time

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we want to be careful because the disease has no treatment so we don’t want to be the first

the first one to find out that it can be transmitted know it’s also

Ford recognize very few deer have chronic wasting disease

because in the state of Illinois email to control effective Lee Samson Illinois what time

states and provinces so other states of used berries

various and sundry control strategies umm MN certainly if you look

you look in the scientific literature there are a good reason for choosing

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using different methods for control other states of try to use increased hunting

widespread trap shooting war facts on cases

some states simply don’t control it all they simply offer testing of all the madness in thats thats

that speaks out about hunters and the heart is okay will simply not

not consume the animals are infected cheaper easier just a test

going back a little bit to the risk of all transmission of this disease from deer tick

do humans think that the abyss points were silver young 425

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the knowledge of all chronic wasting disease in thumbs because

because of the stage we are in terms of our understanding of the potential risk

risks or not transmissions to humans we are to recommend

the people for example do not consume beer that is infected with chronic wasting disease

please all the Russo Anders if you got to find ac/dc

see things like for example do not go to see em all brain live

lymph nodes on other tissues that tend to accumulate the pre owned protein

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not bring some from any animal Welland is the work of talking about

chronic wasting disease brain from animals the derm SA

silk more deer mule deer whitetail deer

Elko news that have been infected with chronic wasting disease OK

the the system thats in now certainly in Illinois are all

are all or are all a deer in other animals which are

which which which are hunted shot in a certainly I prepared for human consumption

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something on the tested  Bruce upper portion of Boo

Boot beer in the state of Illinois that is being tested for chronic wasting disease

very good resource of 404 hunters in the state of Illinois is suck dick

Illinois Department of Natural Resources and they would have um in the website

website that will help for a list of the places work om samples will be accepted for sale

for testing for chronic wasting disease but it’s it is it valid Terry at this point Obispo

this point is a voluntary effort into a very valuable effort

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for both a standing of were the Nazis is present in the state

into RKO Bertucci’s to understand how does it spread I’m wondering how

how does the the testing process work would you send a small portion of the

turn off to a certain sites with a be a place relatively close by that you could go to Hotmail

how to solve how to work well as as the contestants earlier this

this is really difficult to test for this disease because it’s actually protein

protein so there a specific tissues that we can see the accumulation

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the protein alert the top of the spinal cord or some

witn news from the head of the animal laws are collected and putting it fix it

accident and injury much like you would see on a TV shows user sign of

mother cut into thin sections exam with a microscope after standing for the protein

Sony Pictures Hurley labor intensive and Philly time consuming process

process there is nowhere that individual Hunter kon kon go to heaven

what has done in his own he needs to work with SCDNR State diagnostic lab have a testing

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testing done okay we are talking about chronic wasting disease

which has been infected and killing deer in many parts of the country including summit Illinois

I guess star to researchers on the U of I campus looking at Illinois

attempts to manage the problem of North Norma test at the Illinois Natural History

reserve a Department of Animal Sciences professor Genova cocky

how do you hunt deer have you seen the guidelines coming your way concerning this

this disease will give us a phone call or send an email where at 1 800 222

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2229 455 toll free 1 800 222 w

wyll email us at will dash talk it Illinois .edu

besides offering this testing what else has the Department of Natural Resources

resources been doing they been doing their own testing the deer population of trying to identify

identify where were outbreaks a relatively high  poems

boo boo state of Illinois has been working on a surveillance Edison

what is a Texan of chronic wasting disease Senseo

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play since 2002 and that’s that’s when we first founded in

Illinois yes in fact I actually the state of Illinois have some fun

duck for sponsors keys just like a few weeks before they started the valence program

Sol kill it was really interesting because they were already prepared and ready to

32 Lounge the trail in Safford arms and then we had our first apostle

positive but through 10 years off of work the states actually has been able to

220 look for the disease throbbing state of Illinois

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Illinois clearly every year call different counties are valid

ohms and then in the areas were the disease has been detected

the state of Illinois implemented a very localized effort for free

removal of animals in an area where the diseases presents so there

so there’s a second coming of animals that is correct so that is there might be hunted in shot

shot and removed certainly not not not not set up

set up for consumption anything like that in those areas the blue

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the hunters in the areas are always encourage to Paul Smith

samples for old the Texan of chronic wasting disease the test results

soles are provided to them very very rapidly ohms

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into the Battle of the hunter to make their own

phone go toys with the meat the samples are collected

what to buy boots by the state of Illinois to the sharp shooting effort or against this is 40

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CWDM old me the test negative is the native to the pantry

good food pantry negatively mean no no credit place to see that is correct

is the use the they have been using for the last Olympics

10 years do what we call the gold standard in the diagnostic testing

chronic wasting disease is it supposed to be like the look of cube root of earlier

sexy kiss is the best to do we have for the taking chronic wasting disease

movies in any animal to test negative essentially is a cell

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azlottery consume food pantry so in the Clinton cases

cases where the DNR decides to call the deer population Los Angeles

insulated hire people to go out to Judy are there in the course they can tell in vans if the deer

deer has chronic wasting disease therefore the negative results get the

venison gets donated but that also means that in that area

there there fewer deer available for hunters General right so important points

points about the the program so first of all did you know does rely heavily on

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the samples from hunters to to recognize specific locations where there is a

is a disease deer no we know from yours a study of Wildlife

behavior roughly how far do you’re going to move around so we know that

if you find a deer in the speaker spotty me move a milder 290 directions

what is primero home range so the calling of a deer

here by the DNR is restricted just a Bose locations where we have a disease

ZZ animal in a deer that he may have moved around a Shemale move around

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infected so this is very very localized calling is Justin tended removing moles

animals that may have become infected by the previously known disease in animals

so this is really work wise in the deer population in entire County

friends absolutely not K & N Sync is that the first thing the most

most important thing is first to paint a test results and basin does test results

food food food food food pantry okay and umm

shut down from what I’ve seen right now um chronic wasting disease has been

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has been found off strictly in northern Illinois I think it make it down

DuPage County might be the the farthest East

East County that that was a factor that right up against Cook County in Chicago suburbs

ribs but it sounds like the heaviest to inches is 7 founded really bad

really been up in in in northern Illinois closer closer to the border yes it is

what is correct the boom there are couple of counties in the North

northern part of the state that have been heavily affected by chronic wasting disease

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ugh is was Justin to last year that the first case of chronic wasting disease

phone to Page County yes in MS

MS part of the part of the measures excess that we manage to keep this disease

spring rate for South compare the range that we find infected animals

animals in Illinois to other states remained sticky piston to insure a relatively small

my location no that’s important because if you think about

the potential the potential I am size is this might be transmitted to others

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the other animals or humans would like to keep the Rangers smallest possible just in case

case ok for I want to get back to more about the Illinois effort stack up

stuck up with other states that we have some phone calls lining up and I want to say hello to Andy

from Charleston online for good morning on focus eyes

can I call my question was shut that

guess that there would be some hope for a vaccine development based on the fact that you’re fighting

especially in lymph nodes affected its being seen

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in lymph node is protein suggested that there is a fact

response okay thank you

thank you very much and so let me put the answer the question from the last part for

Park first so the mere fact is protein is found in the lymphatic system work

amor mune tissue simply means that is associated with immune cell doesn’t necessarily mean

community spots no by the same token mean

Rose hopeful for these things and there are many many laboratories working on

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vaccines or other sources of drugs it might be used to treat this

this this problem and clearly because it doesn’t turn this disease occurs in humans

that we would like to have better diagnostics for humans for treatment for humans as well

women working on s4 maybe 15 years are so right now and so far

are we have groomers of hope but we haven’t got anything that is real

is really what we would call a successful candidates yet um so keep your fingers crossed

frost wiki Parts Crossville keep working on how do we treat

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other prion the spread diseases in humans with its like a human

human version of mad cow disease kuru what do we do sensor not spread by

read Bible verse a bacteria Genesis the reason the diseases scary images reason

is reason that the controller for import there is no treatment real treatment

Lil does therapy there is nothing to alleviate symptoms are trying to reason

how to reduce the spread of the protein no there’s does not so once an individual has

Joe has this disease do they will eventually die from the disease

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this is ridiculous unfortunate when is happens in younger individual sometimes it happens

comely happens in older people in it looks remotes like outside

something that were no object weighs more you stick something older

older people having this type of neurological DT reation better to spray tragic Whitakers in young women

what is something something wanna be sure of because I know if I first saw presidents

this was the case with chronic wasting disease deer that it was always fatal when disc

discovered by the Corsair limits and then what you can do in treating wild animals

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but when you’re talking about a human being sued submit a medical care

Karen Hospital conditions Cetera what you’re saying there’s nothing you can do no one fortunately

there’s no there’s there’s nothing to slow down even to even to slow down at the latest

play the spread of off off off off the prion protein to the body

no unfortunately I wish I could tell you differently but that’s not the end

yeah and that’s that’s one of the biggest challenges with the sum what does neural DeGeneres

generative diseases of the pre owned protein lonely is very go

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is there is nothing we known how to stop in but once they have

the damage the neurological sells Krispy much no return back

back so what is happening with a lot of for example the the brain cells

cells is that they will end up short form kind of form

where there are no longer functional in The Dalles to something that is just not

not reversal okay I want to take another call now and we’re online 1

11 a.m. Saying hello to Gary in Gilman good morning you run Focus good morning

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this is on the related side but blue tongue disease

southern Illinois Dallas County gasparin in Hamilton

Milton Kelly and the last five years are in a lot of deer have died from

bluetongue disease can you explain it

Blue Tongue disease is a disease that the have some ill

increasing its so innocent Rishta or the Last of years

bluetongue disease is very different a chronic wasting disease blue tongue diseases

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Dr transmitted by a vector is the victory mean yes your credit

Craig James think you got evicted meaning of basically um a virus

snow dogs amino Cabalgata bug Sol what is happening is the

is the does bugs usually is so biting on the deer and the bugs

transmitted to fire someone telling me its a midge with a complicated Latin

Latin name so we can you still use image in it is filmed

image that the like to live alone streamlines into

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into the blue tongue action occurs more frequently during the time of drought

who were the animals with oxycontin trade in some of the streams creatine

creating an opportunity for them to become exposed to it and it is a viral disease

disease which show chronic wasting disease clearly is not

okay and umm is it is it a disease that poses

is a risk units of Newton bars it does not posa a risk

go to humans boo boo sing with viruses that causes high mortality

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season deer Intel better to fish a league of their own what are colors

color is really concerned about because so when does so old

I’ll break super dark earlier very concentrated area in the mortality

tell if you could be relatively high so if you definitely definitely a fact population

Asian not there’s not a risk say off of anything spreading of someone with

annoyingly me eat meat from a cow in an infected animal

ESN to happen in the question that you that you bring up Internet

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affecting the population I would actually be a little bit more concerned about the overall

impact of something like in the long term long run the world impact

back on the population of socio with chronic wasting disease of the reason is because

because this is a disease that have such a long term of persistent

Indian de animal populations that has the authority to spread itself

self help a lot more rapidly that would be done what we would see was so good

okay so definitely different different situations going on here with us

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what is a viral infection spread disease like blue tongue and

and um something like right wasting disease spread by the Supreme Team

correct Indian singers with a chronic wasting disease a piece to date we do not have

avec for a bug image or anything like that is associated with the transmission

in a full of chronic wasting disease what we’re going to take a short break

continue our conversation about the impact of chronic wasting disease on the deer population India

Illinois State and other things we know and dont know about us

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the disease and its role in whether or not to service coverage does jumping the other species

PCs focus Wilo we are back on focus

wyll mg Meadows were talking with Norma test at the Illinois Natural History

free survey and University of Illinois animal sciences professor a gender of a car

McCaskey the topic is chronic wasting disease is a disease that strikes as ID

deer and elk and moose turned up in Illinois in several other regions in North

North America we welcome you questions about Illinois has managed deer population

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endeavor to minimize the diseases impact our number is 18

1 800 22 29455 that’s 1 800 222 w

wyll email I sent will dash Tongkat Illinois dot

edu I think there was a one last word you want it again is about Pluto

Blue Tongue of the Blue Tongue disease which is not chronic wasting disease but also

also know that the insect that spreads it is not going to be very active during

that’s correct if you if you were hunting a normal gun season

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unseasoned the midget serve frozen out hopefully most years a person out so

so in that disease specialist comes and causes the animals die from quickly

so the rest of exposure to humans another word for little risk in the first place

define likely to contribute exposed to the disease at that time of the year back to Cali

chronic wasting disease and we have a cooler online for a friend from Oakland morning

InFocus by another good program you guys I am

I wanted to ask you questions and to make

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make appointment are you there so silent

number 1 what effect does this

this disease is any have on scavengers might find in a flicker

Flickr the animals or a predator predator to my friend Flicka affected animals

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22 beta we do not have any evidence that

the the this disease or chronic wasting disease has an affair

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effect on scavengers good ok on number 2

20 over population of we have periods

how to clean head problems up here in northern Illinois on it

I still do with overpopulation

politics about I have something to tell it again about any animals die

guy especially of starvation does this overpopulation

population enhance that the spread of discredit wasting disease

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well because the diseases transmitted from animal to animal the population

population density clearly has an effect on transmission if you have lice

lots and lots of deer in a small space in one of the misic is more hills more opportunities

has more opportunity transmitted disease to other deer so that’s also

salsa bases the classic basis for wildlife disease management is we try

trying to reduce the population of the local spots to prevent a transmission

once again an interference with a limit on the predators and we refuse

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two column or more specifically column in a way to nature

Sherwood WI letter Hunters go out there and take off the best special

set of the week the dying in the old are there

other problems with this disease or similar diseases and other

another day another country  Canada actually have

who has a relatively large program for control of chronic wasting disease

zzzz and they have animals are infected and b*** outside

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what side of the US and Canada just just us and friend you bring up of

Peralta very important the question here in the or Corre Corre

common duck hunters she only wanted Hunter sexy to have to bass

the best of the animals and that is social reporting recommendation for the hunters

hunters of is best if they do not actually remove a deer

for the year that looks sick or Corp in order to unlock rights

right oh and dad that is a recommendation essential Eco focusing on the phone

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the fact that we do not understand completely if there are any reasons to be king

concerns about about moving to humans friend I want to thank you

thank you very much for your call of the question of calling and it sounds like a

what does something that other than a friend Minden endorse in certain situations

what has this been a cup of controversy with witch hunters or anybody else

DL says the DNR has moved to head with their program

I fink is the secret is the difficult situation because

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because so Gardner from stakeholders there are the dark

colders it is so it is controversial because submissive

most of us just not really like the idea of going in and having the chills

killing animals so just for killing animals but the other same time

I’m at this point we do not have any other resources to actual

actually manage the chronic wasting disease sold

all because of the limitations are only choice is really to actually do a localized

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lice removal of deer in areas where the disease is present

we have a question on from David from Urbana online 100 morning on focus

will a couple things that haven’t been explained I think

um  this differs from bacterial and

are viral diseases in that it is a mutation

in a normal protein it occurs I think once in every

every on cattle 2 million or 3 million

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Union to joules  and I just largely

self limiting transmission in the year is it

where is largely due to the fact that of ruminants in general

the females eat the placenta after giving birth

burn it to a natural process that conserves valuable

mineral and the author of nutrients

what are vital to the animals um its not

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not just the birth mother that eats the placenta but weather

is there a high population of the year will also

eat placentas and this is a large

percentage of the transmission think its open

open question whether it’s awful transmitted in feces

PCs and umm umm your I do you have any

you have any information on that what you race in very interesting questions salt

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let me start back received the first one about the mutation belt

you’re absolutely correct in some cases sprint disease rises from

from a genetic mutation that changes the sequence of a protein

and makes it more easily fooled into the incorrect a disease-causing

confirmation Mountain fortunately once the mutation

in that particular individual has occurred and we have a disease causing protein

you can also transmitted disease to a normal individual who does not have a mutation

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Tatian so we actually have the genetic basis for disease

Days Inn we have the transmitted basis for disease NSU cases

where is the disease look very similar but they are in the key in the second case

is not a result of mutation is result of exposure to the misfolded proteins

so you can get a disease in order to waste now in terms of transmission

mission in the wild so this is it this is a very important questions for house

how do how does the disease be transmitted from from between deer

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and we actually has very good evidence that in fact it is transmitted in Cedar Hill

so if its Highway infected ear um is in the area other deer

deer can be exposed to that dries up the turns into dust video

what organs does the plan for making heated and become infected

so we see it spreading with within a species but its not jump

jumping a species Francis Twitter predator are scavenger pizza Eaton infect

Becca Deere transmission between species is as good as its a challenge in

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question because you know the protein looks very similar Soffer sample for you look at cheap

cheap purses deer view the protein sequence of protein structure of very very

reverse similar but what prevents part of what prevents the transmission between species

shes is infected the nature of the digestive system the nature of the immune system

im in a relationship of the immune cells which hole does this isn’t a museum

disease the muse of transport proteins into the nervous tissue

the structure of the intestinal tract in relationship to the new cells in the intestinal

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ultrak important disease of inside would like to add

who had the baby brother something really important and it is the fact that we know that this

does a propane connection infectious protein can be released in feaces and

and in you read this is so this is so something that’s all we need to take into account

account because like a coffee was bringing up earlier transmission of Khan

chronic wasting disease can occur also Fuka direct contact rate

when was getting really close to each other we know the protein is social presence saliva

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um but it also it is possible because the contributions of the pre

the preowned protein in feces and urine can actually contaminate the environment

no we have another Cooper 234 transmitting or Consequences

zzzz to animals even though they’re not include contact to each other soul

sole boutique the father of intervention as it is so right now implemented

in the state of Illinois is starting essentially two things one is to

20 remove the animals that are infected in a particular area

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I’m at the same time removing the contribution of the pretty girls

animal the contribution in feces and urine old is prion protein

do you invite mint that’s not strictly your talking about that after the animals gone

um you want you you’re trying to reach you trying to move things like feet

faces from your from the from the ground with a were living in a certain way

certainly we’re not going to be removed fuses in urine well what I mean bike

bidis is dead by removing an infected animal yr olds removing better

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that animals gokhan tore future contribution in season

in your dream of the pre owned protein but once a protein is in the environment

tall is something that bass drum notes with other diseases of we believe

lethal stay there for a long time well I’ve David I want to thank you for your call

call me need to go to another line and thats not like to wear weight from champagne is waiting

good morning around focus you up I guess so

what’s in there an article about to operation

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operation of scientist is studying cheap and I guess you have a sum or disease in Colorado

Brad Owen after they finish their studies that shut the up the place down and

some time for later they brought me Dorinda do a somersault 8th anniversary?

questions whether the the pre on in the sheep actually jumped

species and started a CWG in the mule deer that

that that Happiny  you actually a razor edge

is fascinating possibility and certainly scientist

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consider that very carefully unfortunately looking back in time is just so far

fire in the past but we don’t really have any tools to the positively say

lease a one way or the other remains clearly remains a possibility

f*** we can’t prove it or disprove it what what what is the name of the disease

the disease that that that the sheep Avenue we call that the disease called scrape e & G

Ashley has creepy we have historical records is creepy going back

back for some 500 years and the diseases real noticeable cheap because

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because part of the damage causes them to itch and situation

raising sheep for wool scratch themselves in on fence post for trees

illusory wall so you have a disease animal that has big bare patches in it

very obvious for a very long time what what what do a.m.

what they done with sheep in all the years of the state do with the infected tear it finds

simply put it in a landfill how do you keep it from

from contaminating the rest of the day

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environment will the temperature be killed the two strategies are used for making

making sure we don’t contain lead environment we are the incinerator carcass or we can actually die

digesting with chemicals soul for Champlin Galesburg we have a large chemical to digest

adjuster here on campus virginville we don’t have any shape is crazy but we are having sex

generators that would be capable of destroying the protein that way to

are you a hundred yourself out yes and what have you been have you been download

receiving information about guidelines about I requested to send a sample of tissue

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distance from Denver to the DNR for testing for chronic wasting disease I want to say it was about

is about to make beef 13 years ago so I got a very interested in

um hearing that stuff moving from Wisconsin and Illinois

and I didn’t take a dove way back then 12 years a go to Galesburg

where to have a test if you have to take me higher carcass in no no just took the

the head okay CNN way does something that is important to

4 for you to know right now is that the again the guidelines for really well

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Welkom presented in the in the website of the Illinois Department of Natural Resources

resources if you go to the website NXT Gotye PWD

you will find a lot of information as to how to proceed bride OK

what weight awaiting cute thank you very much for calling

and we still have time for a more calls about a chronic wasting disease

disease and how it affected the deer population of the elk and moose population in other

another parts of the country number to call Hiiraan focus speak with our guests is 18

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the wild the email address will dash talked into Illinois

a.edu were talking Norma tales from the Illinois natural history survey and I

and I Janet of coffee in Animal Sciences professor at the U of I now when you

what would you look to what Illinois was doing um I guess the

question the question 1 over the years what do we know about the law

level of infection the number of the percentage of animals we can make an estimate

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off off of the deer population infected with chronic wasting disease has it

has a grown as a state steady has a chance with a trunk

what would we know right now is that the boob the problem

what is the amount of disease in the deer herd of the state of Illinois

dog be gone little round 1 percent

really have to remain around 1 percent of 1 percent of the deer population estimated to be in fan

infected with chronic wasting disease oh it is so basically 1 percent of the end

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the animal star tested for CW de Sol Gomes

what is one percent of the animal tested for CWE how does that compare with other states

its and understand you look specifically at Wisconsin and they were doing

doing things a little differently from Illinois to Wisconsin actually was pursuing

slightly different strategy and part of that is based upon the difference in heaven landscape

so if you’ve been in southern Wisconsin part of Illinois part of the has more

is more forest more connected forced so they were actually trying to cold

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colder in larger areas and in fact that was played on popular

in some years ago they change the control to basically lion hunting

little eye something to reduce the populations and

partly because hunters don’t go to the places where disease are hunters go work

starting over the counter anti depressants disease has gone up since that time in Wisconsin

yeah it’s going to wear  so

so differently about 5 percent correct word for 5 years is going up from one

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from one percent about 5 person now do we think that’s going to hold steady there a credit go up

father the trains the transfer indicating that the W suck that is

so many tramadol increase ohms in the compare to

youtube to what were seen in the state of Illinois in relationship to management the trance

the trance in the state of Illinois have remained flat and elope percentage one percent

what look at that do you think calling is a good long term solution

to the incidence of chronic wasting disease are we just by being a time

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something else can be done I think it’s a me up

a little bit depends on what you mean by one term so we are working

working on vaccines and treatments and things like that but those are a waste

down the road in the meantime I think we need the Collingwood was calling

that we started success over the past decade I think that remains are best option

option to keep this disease in track and keeping track until we know more about

about how the risk is what’s the risk is for livestock for humans in

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and we have a better technology de preps control it in India is a disease

eiza suppose to something we have no treatment for I’m wondering about the way the diseases

jesus prayed we were talking about a bit before about animals close quarters picking up

kickin it up from the from for from the inside of a Faces of ruminants

can um tennis protein

go into the soil can plants be a carrier of it a plan switch

which may not be infected themselves so to speak but would be the need to gain by animals could be

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infected that’s what is a fascinating things um I would

I would guess the number for audience of Dom experiment sometime in the childhood

where they put food coloring in water and then put in some white

white carnations are white flowers Natsu coloring in over a few hours that goes far

flowers change colors in times blue to go to force you can see those right now

and Myles blue carnations are not sure not true blue want some of the ones we have

we have in Illinois or true blue carnations futari ok unfortunately

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the prime protein is rhe much like that because it’s a very small

very small particles in atoms and if it’s suspended in water in the dirt

we have plants growing were brothers infection early cumulation of chronic wasting disease protein

protein the plant can take a protein particles and then become infectious

is part of the reason that we need to understand the normal transmission environment

persistence to try to decrease the the contributions of those proteins

things to do in vir mint and hopefully was the goal of the crease of your fertility for the up

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the uptake of some of the things in the environment articles

one thing I’m wondering about were talking you were talking earlier about the difficult

call T of the proteins of jumping species

season say for chronic wasting disease do the does the break out in another speech

species at getting a case of mad cow disease we do cedar

have that incident happening again a different disease with something spread by Prince

proteins what happened there a fifth disease if the spreading of

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proteins from a disease in one species to another so difficult

what part of the is Mrs 2 issues goes back to one of our colors comics about genetic

genetics so there is a small population of small sub center

subset of humans were genetically susceptible and also you have to understand the number

number of cases of mad cow disease what is Justin Norma’s hundreds of thousands of case

cases of mad cow disease and we have a relatively small number of

mad cow disease cases in humans in the hundreds so

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I guess if you if you simply compare the numbers off of hundreds hundreds of thousands of cat

the cattle that may have actually going to the human food supply versus the few

the few hundred cases you have some estimate of the difficulty in jumping from one

from one PC to another know if you want to the number of infected animal porn

such a deer that may have been consumed the numbers very small compared to number

number for cattle so this is a measure of the statistical probability

probability of jumping is there anywhere in all the places were

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deer populations have been found with chronic wasting disease other infections

section rate has been say higher than the 5 percent off of

tested on animals in Wisconsin actually there are some places in Colorado

who were basically because it’s been a long time in and it was on control

controlled because it was unrecognised for many years is the incidence is much higher ok

Jay and that also races of questions this is zis at all that is always fatal

fatal um is there any way for the disease Depeche Ensley play itself out

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self out the population part of the reading answers really

no because the disease when the movie comes sick disease

zzzz can be transmitted for a long period of time many many months

months before the animal actually died so its not like a disease that is

acutely sale what has a long incubation period in a laundry infectivity

well it sounds like even though we’ve found out something important from your study

about the effectiveness of Illinois techniques to control chronic wasting disease

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is it still something a little scary that’s going to be with us for a while long long

long road to understand more about this disease

20 both but both of my guest today I’m sorry that were out of time both researchers in the

University of Illinois campus Nova test at the Illinois natural history survey

and Professor agenda become ski with the Department of Animal Sciences welcome

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