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if you’re writing a novel you can place your cam

characters wherever you want glamorous city of dangerous wilderness

must see on the moon Mini Display Smith greatest works

places for first time novelist Ryan Barton places

is Peoria especially small town near by given the name of Middlefield

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book on we’re going to the gym at dam

focus Ryan talks about writing his first novel about characters

impulses struggle with health central Illinois

do they are writer Brian Barton today quotes

program continue after the news

welcome to focus on Jim Meadows happy new year Middleville is a little town

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town in central Illinois that you’ve never been to because it doesn’t exist but

you may have been to other towns that could be Melville could be home to the

to the wall be surprised chicken buddy and their respective families Ryan

Ryan bar to make grew up in one of those towns and he made central Illinois the city

is David Venable on word toward what we’re going toward published a few months

few months back by eg publishing know if you like to be part of our conversation with Ryan Bader

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Ryan Bartimaeus on the phone with us in Chicago where he is the Dean of general

general education at Kendall College Orion welcome to focus Happy New Year gym

thanks for having on glad to have you and I’m wondering Ryan first about the title on word toward what

what were going toward What is the title come from well um yeah I like that

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set that sings song HHR of the title at what I was trying to

trying to title that actually the original title of the book was chick Evans

Evans chick wallpaper with chicken early draft

chick Evans in his own way and I like this guy double entendre that title fight

as I continue to to work on the book um when I got to the point where

chicken poultry got a chapbook

haikus that appear at the end of the novel um that was

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what was called on we’re going for tonight just like things song play for

set up the tone of the book I want to be playful

no that was a little playful go in and out rifle

title so that was a time you can you came up with as you were as you were writing

writing a check will be Ceres portrait yes that’s correct okay just came to you in that way

that way and I have to admit I was reading cinemas Baldwin some of his efforts to be red

red eye it could happen anywhere in the country but I did

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live for several years in the Peoria area and um I remember

people trying to write poetry all along those lines okay poetry that

tree that was really are technically quite bad but

incredibly painfully heartfelt right yeah yeah Chick fil a tree is

Trius heartfelt is bad that’s true what I was trying

what I was trying to do with that is an actual to wear off

writing poetry in central Illinois after I wrote this novel when I was I started writing it when I was

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York in 2003 at work on it for 10 years Actually

the first five years New York and Chicago

Chicago without another 5 years

so I went to the the the poetry I want to use data

what is a vehicle um for his dealing with the pain of

on a Mac just fell

FL right thigh to me um something that eats

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he discovered by having staff actually when he was that uh uh library

library down his feelings in a library in point out to him

how to adjust written could be a haiku and then he spends the next I

Thai 30 years as often as a power

how it Friday ice cube

there is something playful a little funny about that what was one of the things that I was trying

trying to do with the f*** um I was trying to get at real

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human emotion does also trying to get out

funny I feel real Zyra gas

entertaining at when writing that important aspect of

writing a short story or whatever is test center Tampa

playful message is this is the stairs

is there to entertain now I check won’t be there I guess it really is the Maine

the main character of the novel but so much of the book is not just about him about his

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is Brother buddy and their wives and Families in and then and and also a

also Marriott Norwood who comes into the story um wall

early on in the novel but chronologically was quite a few years later

uruz spread the other the whole action of the chorus about half a century

Eroll Ryan how does the story develop for you did you see the scope of it when you first started

working on it or is it something that develop over time well um

I didn’t want to write a novel that was something that I want that I would willfully trying to do

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video how many first novel Tara quiet air

subject matter if its clear first person novels

contemporary novel iFriends live

might have written the first person novels um a lot of them have to do with

how to do with a page everyday for a year

weekend so I was willfully trying to do something large

do you like a very ambitious xScope novel characters

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what I have to wear to slam that into like a hundred cages

the first come first draft first couple draft the first five years

years really as I thought I was riding a really short big scope

novela um and I really try to make that work

under the influence of Mary Hanna paper writer of mine is novel

rag which covers lifetime in is really short fast

5 years trying to do that before I realized I

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written and it was written by Barry Hannah Anderson where I could be right that f*** so

stumbled into the the consciousness I’m part of the book

where am I now to different characters consciousness

chicken body are there wives

ge wife ass dyad chicks wife

and then very Norwood at her husband green Geneseo

yo um I really really want to get their conscience nasty ass

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try to understand these characters om one reason I want to do this

this is because this is not my strength says as a writer what company

riders dialogue in scene what does not coming

writing a character consciousness and I’m 50 years trying to teach myself

myself out and have it at the consciousness of the character that really built a novel around

around that’s really work where were larger and got bigger ass

ficious In N Out healthy to use switches

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actually really got a lot of fun for me to write the first couple

couple years doing that when I stretch myself struggle but after

after I turn a corner with a lot of fun 11

what was interesting the idea of a big novel I was reading about how your publisher Robert lasner published

Publishing cause your novel a Midwestern 100 Years of Solitude

overstatement will realize we get down 20 me

6 main characters Wright brothers there’s this Bears

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there’s a chicken Diane there’s body and is it litchi is the

is the correct how do you pronounce oh yeah BGN actually it’s interesting because

chicken Indian American character at end of a name is legion

I had a students of a while back when I was writing that

American the time I was trying to come up with

um at her name and I just name turvy G

American out woman who is that name

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name just out maybe a common Indian name

name as it turns out after novels publication I was talking

is talking to a friend of mine who is that end in American woman at the name

name the characters look at me like I never heard before

I got to do with a lot when im right im right

right right right eye

pick up the pieces later I realize all the states that I have a nice life

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fat as a writer make all of this stuff off and I have to go back in

incorrect things that I didn’t I didn’t change that because of that point I eat that care

character of Miami current weather

Willie G’s a very little character in the novel cheese

she’s married to buddy but uh she is someone that chick is attracted to

221 there’s a will there’s a will there’s a very crucial

show background given very early in the novel with striped so many more vents after that

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cracked yeah um yeah she she was a kind of

kind of the catalyst for wet what happened at end

jumpstart a lot of like a domino

fatback Rob that she

she gives check on his wedding night early in the box

what kind of cement

what happened between brothers family

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hon

what you do to me after reading after reading the novel in scene setup

is a very I don’t know impulsive and lonely characters

pulse of the only seem to be doing something they think I’ll make a real difference usually without much

how much information to go on really and lonely because none of them seem

have anybody to thicken fine in Medina Mike give them a sounding board

doing the right thing right now you see these characters I do ya

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Messi the characters of all of them are are are lonely I take all of them RR

driving to make a connection and oftentimes ah

ways that I asked ration connect a fat ass

perverted a sexual fantasy

um and I think what you mentioned in terms of i

you know that I think that’s correct

AOL have a desire to do good to do the right thing

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what’s a chance at the first thing that comes into their mind like chicken has fallen tree

what is the library drop something

down and library that I like you

any spend the next 30 years trying to write I 20 minutes per diem Folsom

where to call about being a up a poet

if you with your emotions um yeah I do that

accurate what is focus mg Meadows

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talking with rider Ryan Bartimaeus debut novel onward toward what

what were going toward is out from publishing if you have a question for Brian R phone

phone number is 1 800 2229 455 email

email your question to will dash time Illinois edu phone number

phone number again 1 800 222 wyll and you can also a sentence

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now that I sent in central Illinois in a town called

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called Middleville with a pumpkin Camry and you yourself c**

come from what temp for Morton Morton Illinois which is the capital of the world

what’s up what’s up with a large Libby’s Nestle’s um um pumpkin can read

it’s about why don’t know about the pen 15 miles of the West

West east of East Peoria cross the river rack and soul

and so I’m wondering Middleville you know we could be more could be a lot of small towns

Townsend Tennessee county was the idea that God Church um

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Middle Village imagine is that is a fictitious town in early draft

what I name of town Centralia south

um and I like the name Centralia ad

Joe Satriani rider

and I know  Joe Centralia IL hilltop Centralia WA

trailer with all of your eye Morton landmarks basically a pumpkin can

counter street with out with 6 which is a department store that way

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Stafford switch with a family on grocery store that was in Morton

Morton out of clothes with six sense close

and then when you know what I saw the book 2 gig I made that change

changed from Centralia to fish in town Villa

that that name because I worry that someone from

from Southern Illinois from central Illinois baby yourself would read a novel and sable

pumpkin cannery with 6 that was there self

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I got a little nervous LIII fictionalized at why do Recon eyes a lot

alot of names in the cannery in which 6 remember San Francisco accident on over the air

the area when I was soccer in Peoria survive Gary bass convenience store

store chain price and alot of other names of Peoria Rivermen the paradise casino

Casino the other one world coffee houses are all anybody in Peoria Illinois does places

places right that’s correct yes I was using actual landmark apartments

I started the book when I was ork ah ah

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I graduate school what time add a little homesick

text for for for central Illinois had lived in central Illinois

number of years at that point I left central Illinois and um

1993 to go to college undergrad University of Iowa Iowa

Iowa City can I live after graduating college

Texas for a couple years in Boston for New Years in Dallas

York so stories mom ass

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about small towns in Illinois lastest trying to

trying to understand I think we’re where I came from

Illinois landmarks I 90 west

I know the details from Portland to know the details when your trying to create

create something a narrative an artificial narrative with words that says

is doing research that was already stuff in my imagination

access  that’s the reason why I said it

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I didn’t I didn’t a chance to go online from your website

should know you do if a website is Ryan Bartel maine.com

isa.com is incorrect and I will make sure to get a link on a little later

on our website will.illinois.edu slash Falcons

all this is what I believe you set in Deer Creek Mackinaw River right yeah

yeah that’s true and Mackinaw also flows through your fictional Middleville is well it does Yaya

jack mackerel River important river to me growing up by I use to can you

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do with my dad and his friend found in Mackinaw River we had a

I had a friend like a deer hunting cabin on the Mackinac Bridge

Mackinac Bridge overlook the river so I spend alot of time around Mackinac

Mackinaw River at the kid how to swim in the river

cabin self um that’s important part of my child

childhood side does show up quite a bit then and when we have

when we have a caller in and out we have to take a gentleman because he’s calling for Morton

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Martin and um online Foretrex for morning good morning urine focus

morning  good morning

I just want to know if Ryan is trying to put Rae the dark side of

the people’s personalities um R

the Dark Side of the Falling Man RR a human being

does the novel seems to be somewhat dark throughout you know everybody

striving to get somewhere  and that’s

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question  sure thats umm

take that was intentional that I 7 Ave what in the penis

Darkus what is bad that characters are struggling as much as their stripes

I think again in one of the things that

drive me as as a rider um to to write is set

try to understand something I don’t I don’t I go into a book

RR short story trying to understand I

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will try to understand people live in central Illinois um M

what comes out of the darkness or whatever by product

fat certainly that something that act that

came out of f***

all rec center thank you very much for your call you know I’m just just for my tooth

my 2 cents I got the idea of reading this book this is a book in which

no one seems to get quite what they want but they sure are trying hard

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hard is is is is is is is is that accurate

thing right yeah absolutely mean I think I might be a

how come you can really teach a worldview in NFL

this is part of my my world you and I think that I think that

honest I think a lot of people driving test note to search

how do you say what they want to do all does a try

there’s something really beautiful about the trying to struggle

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Universal that were all in kitchen definitely working on that I think

baby part of the darkness of it is is the honesty that that we do fail

fail and a lot of people fail a lot of people don’t get what they set out

how to flash do you think that’s going to be hung is is an anon

ongoing Fi mean you’re working your short stories and novels so far are you also

do all to write about people who are you who are able to be on the market Livermore office

um so far I think a lot of it has been

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what were talking about actually on my wife out of my work

she should make a comic book search in your work is so fat

that I’m a bad person I’m not fat person have a lot

what sabi forgot you beautiful daughters 183 and other one that’s too much

my soul wonderful wife just happened

happens at the way that I see you the struggle of humanity I guess this

is that out there’s a lot of a lot of striving

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Ahmed not quite Grafton not quite getting what what you made

I want out of life now I suppose and I don’t know if this was on something

call it was was wondering about is it in da picking these people listen

is as as you know really dwelling on the dark sides and their lack of success

excessive coughing smelling wrong you’re making a comment about a bad people

people in central Illinois people in Morton where were you grew up or just

about people in general people in general um I’m not

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get out of my head is at the book to be a

trail of the people in central Illinois

why dont see all of the people that you don’t want to end up like the mask

mastersons was mud in his hometown because of the Spoon River anthology thrice

right right yeah that’s not what you know that yeah yeah that’s not my

not my time I attempt a lot of its just me trying to

how to understand the human condition that ends in trouble

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what that mean its f***** central Illinois because I know the details

Tales I know that have to say a lot of riders say no I

they said they’re their work because they say in the area

area Faulkner Hemingway

Adam story Rollins

Michigan area riders do and then I

tales easier now I turn them knowing

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internet service couple out of the tails in Everett

and and and crease artifice of artifice

5th Ave and create a world by cherry picking details of

internet I didn’t do a little bit of this that and the f*** with a Las Vegas

I don’t know a thing in Las Vegas wife

Las Vegas Street name stripper dick in Las Vegas

um you can go on the internet and go with the Google

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Google Maps you can figure out street names for things located in UK

make it you like Las Vegas NV

girl from Las Vegas to do on citizen work

like I said I didn’t do that 5

air and

you know I’m so I’m so I’m thinking  there are the physical that there’s there

is there the physical places you could you could I draw the names of any particular place

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places you mention about writing about Las Vegas going to the internet you close your eyes and think bank

back to your hometown does it evolve a certain feeling a certain atmosphere 2

where to you and can you describe that  Yahoo

yeah I mean um it certainly does a the feeling that

that I am about how is it

show that I have for a small town um I was asking

faster than other out interview at app review

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talking about how to whistle on Manton of the dying of the town

intentional anyway but it possible that part of

part of this mean I don’t live in a small town anymore I live in Chicago

different than everytime I go down

parent to live there Michael down to central Illinois frequently

in the end you feel the contract I’m so maybe

the part of it was the eye I believe

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leaving town now that part of me

is gone and I don’t have a desire porn

maybe it’s my own coming of age

well that I was working out of the box what were talking with Ryan Barnum AZ

onward toward what we’re going toward his first novel out from a publishing

what’s the short break and when we come back alright if you get a copy of your book with you

you could you could read a short excerpt Amedisys focus on WI

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Rebecca focus on

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focus right now we’re talking with Ryan Bartimaeus first novel onward toward what

what were going toward came out a few months back from egg publishing your phone is the lines the wall

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WallBuilders chicken Diane and body in lazy as they trying to find something

happiness in small towns in Illinois with occasional for raised in to Peoria

and Ryan if you have an excerpt up ready for the book

the book if you want to set us up here and what’s going on church so um I’m going to read

need a short actor Pierre takes place in a 1998

a book span 50 years and one

what is the storyline physcic wall be there at a regen it go

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add those to have a romantic relationship for about 2 months

where they flirt with um I going to Florida to run away to

Florida where chick ah at his honeymoon with his wife

Elvis’s from June 16 1998 tween

chicken Mary’s at just meet just met and I

Mary is going to take a check from the paradise riverboat casino

how to hook up to a bar that she’s been hustling laugh

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black ass  xnxx

Mary Sat side chick in a minivan bag lap

she didn’t know anything about him interested in her or she thought he was interested in

her she can be sure she was losing losing her touch she used to be able

Bible get a man’s attention to the Cowboys the brazen bull with internet I told her

how she was down to a guy how he didn’t seem like you should

told her that have to be there there for company

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after the third time Chicago to nursing home corrected her and said it was technically

assisted living facility you said with a Smurfette heated assistance living

Joe she wasn’t sure she got a joke mean that

can you get help going to the bathroom and stuff like that she asked him and he said that’s not what

Matt she waited for the punchline never came status

what her like she was supposed to say something but she didn’t say anything

not smell in the van Bostian sweaty and Mary new coming from check

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where could be Greensboro suits with which were in laundry bag behind

baby Sun Hat bake them to crack a window whisper voice in our head

this was a bad idea Green was in the hospital and she was in a minivan with a man

can I could be the reason actually probably was the reason for the old man smell

chicken smile ready ready for P

sad very turned on the ignition the radio Rock 1:06 Peoria

classic rock station lasted heart Barracuda from the speakers she loves

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love this song remember the time when she thought of herself as a barracuda chicken last in the rearview

aerosol retirement home buy back out of a parking spot carefully

foreskin halfway out Chad stop letting people walking single file

6th grade class cross behind her a white hair lady with Walker mi

contact with her bald guy in flannel shirt wristwatch wave

very thought of green in the hospital does ham last night

NFL phony long fingers with pencil she had what happened to the

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the human body over time you need to get back to the hospital with voice at

what are you doing with the sky chicks with fat chicks loud sound in feet

back and chest don’t say anything is Morris don’t move

guy wearing a members only when the line is looking around concern

turn right left over her shoulder chick with scratch so far down in practice

practically on the floor I supposed to be on a pot Jesus Christ horses going

the new low she was kidnapped in an old man

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is assisted living residents allowed way back and it was exactly

you asked him did you ask him to come with you in Hickory

likes you use water like amore think you could like him time

driving back to we care physician in Middleville

and that’s an excerpt from a

onward toward what we’re going toward read by the author Brian Bartel May

Mary Geneseo is who I called Mary Norwood for sale

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corset was her maiden name Marley stir on her previous their previous name for brown

any previous marriages shemale pad ob I was struck out

without Mary’s character who is set

by Boyce is essentially the voices of the two sides of her conscience allowed

loud voice in the whispering voice right and um that was

does that was really a character worry hurt the most interior dialogue

long because of you because of the loud voice the whispering voice are always on

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is arguing over what she should do right yeah I was really with that I was really

really interested in the conflict of these two voices in a hole in her

ass in two different directions to whether or not to give into

this and Paul talking about character in a year

impulse of going to a Florida with check

check in check out Florida which you want to go to a 40

chasing down his past in

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Florida second chance with Mary

yo add to write his his life

wife passed away im and then the other

the other voices for telling her that that she can’t do that anymore

entire life doing that married 89

910 time numerous times too many times to relieve account

account with man in her life is kinda it’s been hell

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Hakeem from a man to man to man to man there

another time worksheets that important to do it yet again a part of it

you can’t stop doing that

The Wanted play that out in her consciousness

trying to get that alot of Us

thinking that way I know that I thought of that way for I have

246 your hat on

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opposite direction  are you on your characters on at all like

specific people you’ve known are are are you drawing from just hold on

whole lot of people in constructing a drive from a lot of people

the book a kind of started when I started writing at

like I said lack of New York um I was thinking about

eyes this man his name 15 chick Evans

how to clean pool country Aire pool

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how much is a small Morton I like to swim at with friend

friends when I was 10 11 12 years old and he use to clean a pool

Time retired and I was always

is really interested in his name he was around the community alot of bass

basketball high school basketball game run into him in high school

talk to him about sports an invention cabins

interesting names of writing this story I II III

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what is name and started inventing a life for

has nothing to do with chicken person

what is really like the name and then I eventually change

the name to check Walton family name of Mind

gay check that last check

no I don’t I don’t based on a bike

one for one character person to person

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tell me how long does it take you to write the book for 10 years

10 years of pretty regularly are offset on um

pretty regular I mean I would stop twerking to the projects are you mentioned earlier

read the story of the flatness I wrote that

Parkside I would take breaks and I write a short story

short story come back to its my processor Rider

how to write a draft type out a whole Draft

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and then I will print it out the dead note

and then I have literally kind of um

the next to me and I retire the whole thing page by page by page

KJ in an attempt to read habits that the

novel characters what exit on a long time

time that are you re writing as you re type yes absolutely

gas on large things I’m drinking Bang

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Hanjin what are some of the biggest changes you made

over you know over your multiple drafts  what is consciousness

is for one that was kind of the biggest when we spoke about that earlier

jack is consciousness that really I enlarge the characters

Mary Geneseo is consciousness the

the whisper voicemail loud voice audition

ABK minutes 637 something like that

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these things that I’ve done with a tangent that I follow their own

baby I can I can enlarge her consciousness by having two different

is two different voices that she. In her consciousness

that would be one major difference

this is course was the first novel you had attempted um was the muscle

learning process by itself just trying to put together a novel that you’re finally found

satisfied with for ten years

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so yeah ing a lot of it was just know um

teaching myself how to how to write a novel

app that that that that over

overcoming um I might go to I mean it

if it’s difficult what to write in an ounce

overcoming up my own voices in my head talking

about trying to do this

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voice in Westbury voice your self guided yeah

yeah mean when your when your when your riding your your kind of

overcoming the voices in your head that are telling you

why is it that this why was St Paul

the temptation if you’re going to spend 10 years and I should know you were in

graduate school during a lot of this time in your studies grade of writing so you something

impetus to right right but it would

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what it would just be so easy to give up yeah absolutely mean it is

it is it is it is it is it is easy to give up but message to something

what I’m really interested in writing is the discipline of it

how’s it going to everyday I am working for an hour an hour and a half

half hours whatever whatever it is I think of something

if its cathartic meditative

this to do that and that’s really was important to know the

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the publishing and Happiness

the byproduct an app that’s great in the lot of fun and I like

enjoy talking to you about the f****** doing interviews in reading review

reviews Sol a sol byproduct of the real work the day today

today struggle of trying to write trying to

yes I understand things about yourself and humanity

the condition that really what it’s about I mean um their account list

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novel published and I hope you continue to write a novel

because that’s really wear a really worth asses

where can i buy work on another f****** baby to take another test your baby won’t get published

published what the actual active writing and doing it going to the basket

everyday Inhabitat at space

thats thats making me a better person

better father import well that’s interesting

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that’s the first time I’ve heard somebody talk about the act of writing

as being worthy worthy in itself rather than just the mean

means towards the end I think I print from lots of writers who are glad to appear

dua produced books but but they the Necessary and enjoy the price

the process of doing so mean enjoys interesting word

Mike the right words right I think um

think it’s just the way I have the engagement processing mean

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let’s face it I don’t make em i dont make a living as a writer

not yet anyway of money to be made as a rider

um in the pressure to do to make a living out where would have to be so a man

live on your craft of the refrigerator

I’m not sure I could handle that um but what I can handle is

is is doing doing this no and trying to understand myself

condition like I said I’m going to it in and using it as a form

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form of meditation a form of trying to get better

really that’s what’s interesting to me and I said that’s what I said

when does the voice start talking in my head as I’m working

on PC action pretty dark times here because I sleep

aspirations is the published om Center times rethink what you’re doing

very good red eye mean I have to remind myself that snot

point no point isn’t that is in the Delta

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the labors the points is a labor and doing the work

well we are talking with a Ryan Bartow may also of his on first

first novel on Wirt Rd what were going toward Iran focus on a metal still time for you

I’m for your questions for Ryan at 1 800 22 29455

email acid will dash time Illinois .edu without phone number again

can 1 800 222 wyll Bryan what you just said

sad about being a writer being one who writes in the act writing being Valley

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valuable itself for hamsters in contrast to what you have a chic wall Beazer doing

who was once he discovers that some of his release

really sad thoughts can be fashion in the heights who decides to be

be a poet which means for him growing up scraggly little beard and end

and and and and wearing a beret this is all part of being a poet smores

is Farsi is concerned yeah baby I’m part of that is

I was working out my myself what does it mean to be a writer

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Ryder does it mean to be a writers how many appearance of a rider and

is it in the Bible that mad fat guy grows

French beard Witches of a little bit of hair underneath is laughing

where to buy red corduroy blazer in the book part of a poet

what I was saying there to myself more than anything

that’s not what writers out about trying

out and about you didn’t finish a book

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can you also got it published with egg publishing which of someone I’ve looked at it sounds

sounds like an interesting publishing house in itself if you can tell me anything about it sure yeah egg

is a a small independent press and I

um in Brooklyn New York at about handbook year

half of those 450 dozer literary fiction

have a nonfiction book with well it’s a husband

husband and wife team who are the editors ass

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I met them in 2009 at i

AWP which is a writing conference

different cities every year in Chicago

Chicago my friend David e. I.

short stories of captive audience at a great story

egg and he was in 2009

Robert F ass

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I had a question short stories is well I had to them in 2010

didn’t take back collection short story collection short stories by the body year

year after that I got an email 2011 from

Elizabeth I edecan she have thinking about you

about your writing and I was wondering if you ever finish that novel that you were working on

anonib mention her that write a novel when I pet her my

short stories and I haven’t finished it um I was working on

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non the last draft the time but I told her when I finish that I was over to her

dead I am

and I’m wondering what surf reaction has this book on back in your hometown of Morton

Morton  um from from the people that I’ve heard from its gotta be a pro

a pretty good reaction to reading their ob early on

September Apple can I guess ad

I am a quite a few people there

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7500 people that’s pretty good ground for reading I have your area

summer reading for theres like 6 7 people there

in everything was it that is a small town

town of small town of Rye New France

my family and friends parents my parents and friends of mine from high school

overwhelming mean this is a book published

West Palm from work for for a long time I think some people map

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aspiring to be a up a rider

I was kind of out of my 4 a.m. To write his my first

f*** Tom is flatter I had 11

1channel men I came up to me and I end up with

is kids he’s my parents age um and I live

behind the actual en mi lugar garden that I used

family garden at the SSID character in the park

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f****** is the first book first novel

Radford High School which is best flattery

um that would spend time not a reader

Adventist I’m reading a novel

word that kind of action

it’s like watching a movie where you can sit down for an hour

half and watch and watch it be done with that I’m going to read novel it takes

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takes a number of hours in the f*** is a muscle cell

so that sounds like it was a really positive

positive experience for what is after all book about very unhappy people living in

living in your hometown yeah um all the way I should say I think you eat

you said you use trove put it in there but its funny that it is funny a lot of the time

the time and I wasn’t I wasn’t sorry to be spending time with these people but they’re so unhappy

unhappy right right yeah um like I said they are they are unhappy

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3030 humor in the bucket is funny and it’s now

freestyle eyes that I log into characters

element flapjack I think in the box

and like I said I do I do have a desire to entertain

um I don’t think I can force myself for my world you but

I can balance it out with trying to make it entertaining about the characters you are

who are struggling la reine happy

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Orion Bartman want to thank you for writing on we’re George Weber going towards

thank you for coming on focus to talk about it do you have a second novel in the works

works I don’t right now why are you plan to work on something

my wife and I just had our second daughter revelations 22 months ago

when to go so I am and im yo waist deep in Nevada right now

right now tell if I wore number material being created

right as we speak exactly yeah absolutely absolutely 5

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Jack plan to get fit to once and then I am looking for doing that

well thank you for being on the show today and thinks for a thanks for the Saints Row

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you know about these common animals why do they say in the city as well in the c***

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